[VoIP] DP-compatible ATAs

John Novack jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org
Thu Dec 28 10:13:38 CST 2006


Remember - NEED is not the operative word with CNET and collecting in 
general
WANT is what is all about
I don't NEED 100 ports off of my Asterisk box, but I WANT them

Kirt finally received his T1 card this morning,

John Novack



Steph Kerman wrote:
> I wonder just how well your typical ATA works in an environment full of 
> 1 amp 400V back EMF spikes.
>
> I also wonder how many people will have trunks to so many switches and 
> need independent trunks at that.  Most SXS systems can have trunk 
> outlets from a selector level of different exchanges multipled to the 
> same OGT.  I'm even sharing trunk equipment between my SXS and XB 
> systems.  So unless the traffic requires it, it's not obvious to me what 
> is accomplished by having an independent pair of OGTs to the * box from 
> each distinct exchange.
>
> Steph
>
> Shane Young wrote:
>   
>> Two in and two out is four.  Multiply that by the number of switches you have.
>>
>> We have 6 EM switches in two buildings (Federal/ITT, Stromberg, AE,  
>> North, Western, Itec).
>>
>> Supervison (reverse battery) generally (but not always) stinks with the ATA's.
>>
>> If you want to use E&M trunks, your options with ATA's are dropped  
>> down to just about nothing.
>>
>> Now, if you had a bunch of blank trunk plates for a step office, you  
>> could stick an ATA on the plate and put the can back on and it would  
>> look just like a regular trunk.  Regular trunks have ethernets coming  
>> out the back, right?  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting john jones <jjones3601 at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> I don't understand the density requirement for
>>> switchers.  Do people see a need for more than 1 or 2
>>> inbound and 1 or 2 outbound trunks?  I do understand
>>> that a channel bank can give greater flexibility (and
>>> density) at a lower cost per port, ( and may support
>>> Dial Pulse dialing ).
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Chad Perkins <chad at maine.maine.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> On 27 Dec 2006 at 10:18, john jones wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Actually, Steph's idea is better.  It would allow us to pick ATA's on other criteria.
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> In terms of connecting to CNET the ATA route is of more value to
>>>> non-switchers.  ATAs aren't economically feasible given the port
>>>> density requirements of most switchers who will need to go the
>>>> channel bank and/or PCI card route.
>>>>
>>>> c.
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- John Novack <jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> Steph Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Aha!  I didn't realize that.
>>>>>>> So there really is no other ATA that handles
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>> DP?
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> Sounds like we
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> really need a cost-effective and compact
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>> DP/DTMF
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> converter that works
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> reliably without resorting to Smart-1s and
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>> Sandman
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> devices that don't
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> work due to the DP pass-through problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Not really, since the PCI analog cards and
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> channel
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> banks  DO support
>>>>>> Pulse dial, and if someone HAS to have a pulse
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> dial
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> FXS circuit, there
>>>>>> is the IAXy
>>>>>> Smart-1s are working for some members, and they
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> are
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> John Novack wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> That unit is locked to Vonage. It is a 1005V,
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> to
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> be precise
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> AFAIK, they aren't sold outside of Vonage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steph Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't your Motorola 1005 ATA supported DP
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>> also?
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> SK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Novack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> The only outboard ATA that supports pulse
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> dial
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> in FXS that I know
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> of is the IAXy sold by Digium.
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
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