[VoIP] Mitel Smart-1 as Pulse to Tone Converter - Converts digit-by-digit!

[Donald Froula]

Yes, after the inter-digit timeout expires, the "#" is
sent, and it cuts through, the dialpulses get passed
through to the line with no further translation.

I have not experimented to see if the "#00" in the
route (which send the final "#") is needed to force
this behavior. It does seem that it is necessary to
have it wait for a valid dialtone in the route with
"#8XX" for it to work.

I verified this by listening on the line side as I
dialed through a butt set.

Don

--- Steph Kerman <stfkerman at jps.net> wrote:

> Don,
> 
> That is very interesting.  While it is true that the
> existing hardware 
> inherently splits the line, a hardware modification
> might be designed 
> now that there is known to be firmware support for
> this on-the-fly mode. 
> 
> I assume that once timeout occurs and # is sent, it
> no longer recognizes 
> DP and will not split the line if DP is received.
> 
> Steph
> 
> Donald Froula wrote:
> > My impression was the Smart-1 was strictly a store
> and
> > forward device that enforced one fixed route for
> each
> > length string of dialed digits.
> >
> > However, I found a route combination that
> translates
> > dial pulses to touch tones as they are dialed,
> > variable length.
> >
> > I set the default route (0) to "#8032#007##"
> >
> > I then set search table 801 to "#9#8"
> >
> > The search table will mach any first rotary digit
> and
> > go to route 0. Route 0 waits for a valid dialtone
> > (retrying if not found) and sends the first digit,
> > translated to DTMF. It will then wait for the
> > inter-digit timeout period, send a DTMF #, and cut
> > through. The interesting thing is that one can
> rotary
> > dial any number of digits after the first and they
> > will be translated to DTMF as they are dialed.
> After
> > the inter-digit time pause, the DTMF "#" is sent
> to
> > terminate the entry to the ATA. This allows any
> length
> > number of any number to be dialed. 
> >
> > I'm not sure if this behavior is specific to the
> > firmware in my Smart-1, but it works like this
> with
> > the route encoding mentioned above. Very
> convenient!
> > However, the user is still blocked from hearing
> any
> > sounds from the line side until the dialing is
> > completed and the call cuts through the Smart-1.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >   
> >> --- Greg Blakely <greg at vyger.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> The default route in a SMART-1 is run by this
> >>> command:
> >>>
> >>> #80327##
> >>>
> >>> The first three digits translate to "wait for
> >>> precise dial tone", and
> >>> the rest of it amounts to "dial the number and
> cut
> >>> through."
> >>>
> >>> If the precise dial tone has timed out, the
> >>>       
> >> SMART-1
> >>     
> >>> does not detect it,
> >>> and **should** hang up and then re-seize the
> line,
> >>> detect the dial tone,
> >>> and then dial and cut through.
> >>>
> >>> If this is not happening, it may be that the
> #803
> >>> part of the sequence
> >>> is missing...  
> >>>
> >>> Something to check, anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Greg.
> >>>
> >>> PS.  I'm fairly good at programming SMART-1
> >>>       
> >> dialers,
> >>     
> >>> since I installed
> >>> them for a 0+ provider for about three years,
> back
> >>> in the late 1980s and
> >>> early 1990s.  I'm not an expert, by any means,
> but
> >>>       
> >> I
> >>     
> >>> can usually get
> >>> them running.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info
> >>>>         
> >>> [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf
> >>> Of
> >>>       
> >>>> Donald Froula
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:11 PM
> >>>> To: voip at ckts.info
> >>>> Subject: [VoIP] Mitel Smart-1 as Pulse to Tone
> >>>>         
> >>> Converter
> >>>       
> >>>> I received my Smart-1 the other day and, after
> >>>>         
> >>> some
> >>>       
> >>>> head scratching over the manual and odd
> >>>>         
> >>> programming,
> >>>       
> >>>> got it working (sort of) as a dial pulse to
> tone
> >>>> converter in fromt of my ATA (a Linksys PAP2).
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is that the Smart-1 picks up the
> >>>>         
> >>> outgoing
> >>>       
> >>>> phone line as soon as the phone goes off-hook.
> >>>>         
> >> By
> >>     
> >>> the
> >>>       
> >>>> time I rotary dial all the digits and the
> >>>>         
> >> Smart-1
> >>     
> >>> cuts
> >>>       
> >>>> through, the PAP2 ATA has already timed out to
> >>>> reorder.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can adjust interdigit timers in the PAP2 to
> >>>>         
> >> wait
> >>     
> >>>> long enough after the first digit, but there is
> >>>>         
> >> no
> >>     
> >>>> timer I can find to control the off-hook to
> >>>>         
> >>> reorder
> >>>       
> >>>> timing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally, I'd like the Smart-1 not to pick up
> and
> >>>>         
> >>> dial
> >>>       
> >>>> the outgoing line until it detects a pattern
> >>>>         
> >> match
> >>     
> >>> on
> >>>       
> >>>> the incoming digits. I've been through the
> >>>>         
> >> manual
> >>     
> >>> a
> >>>       
> >>>> few times, but can't see how this would be
> done.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any help is appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Don
> >>>>
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> 
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