[VoIP] Wikipedia entry on Phreaking, the section about Wawina

Tue Oct 10 20:39:53 CDT 2006

Hi,
A lot of that time is probably pure silence.  I stayed on with my own
recording connection coming in via Cnet for several hours after everybody
else had left.  In any event, a lot of the later stuff was just boring, me
making weird noises over the new at the time T1 line which wasn't quite
working as good as it is now to say the least, etc.  There is at least one
certain segment that needs to be edited out if you want to post the whole
thing.  If you have plans to do that I'll talk to you privately about that.
As for the 1306 messages, I just recorded the 2600 line in its entirety a
few nights ago.  While my copy is mostly valid there are a few Internet
glitches in it.  Amazingly, it's a bit less than three hours of messages,
and that doesn't count the ones you set aside earlier!  Obviously you have
the best copies of these recordings there can possibly be.
On a related subject, were you planning to disconnect 488-1306?  It's still
up and accepting messages, or at least it was not long ago.
Jayson.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane Young" <voiptandem at shaneyoung.com>
To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at ckts.info>; "Lucky 225"
<Lucky225 at 2600.com>
Cc: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at ckts.info>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Wikipedia entry on Phreaking, the section about Wawina

> Ok, I did a little checking.
>
> Of the 25 conference calls, there were only 6 real ones.  The others were
wrong numbers, hangups,
> etc.
>
> The 6 calls add up to about 691 minutes (about 11.5 hours) of time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Lucky 225 <Lucky225 at 2600.com>:
>
> > lol
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/06, Shane Young <voiptandem at shaneyoung.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > How much of this stuff do you wanna put out there?
> > >
> > > Over the course of time, there were about 25 conference calls that I
have
> > > recordings of and about
> > > 236 messages left on 488-2600.
> > >
> > > I should put out a box-set for christmas!/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Lucky 225 <Lucky225 at 2600.com>:
> > >
> > > > if you send me the files, or I can set up ftp for you, I'll host
them on
> > > > verizonfears.com
> > > >
> > > > On 10/10/06, Jayson Smith <ratguy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > All except, afaik, Joybubbles are on this list.  I have sent him a
> > > > > voicemail
> > > > > to try to secure permission.  I'll probably go ahead and post that
> > > segment
> > > > > unless he objects.
> > > > > On the subject of which, how would people like to hear these?
Would
> > > you
> > > > > rather have files you can download from a website and listen on
your
> > > > > computer, or a Cnet phone number you can call, pick from a menu of
> > > > > available
> > > > > segments and hear them over the phone, or both?
> > > > > Thanks for your offer of space.  I've got plenty of space to host
> > > this,
> > > > > but
> > > > > not a lot of bandwidth.
> > > > > Jayson.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "John Novack" <jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org>
> > > > > To: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [VoIP] Wikipedia entry on Phreaking, the section
about
> > > Wawina
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you need space, I have almost 15 Gig sitting around waiting
for
> > > > > something
> > > > > > I assume all the participants were subscribers to the VOIP list,
> > > > > correct?
> > > > > > I doubt you will have any problems with anyone, nor even need
> > > permission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Novack
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jayson Smith wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > > I do have the recordings I made from both the night time
> > > conference
> > > > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > daytime conference when the cutover actually occurred.  I
don't
> > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > the entire conference available, as there are large boring
spots
> > > and
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > things that I should edit out, so I'll probably make available
> > > certain
> > > > > > > parts, with the involved people's permission of course!  I
> > > definitely
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > to put up the part where Shane tells us all that the cutover
has
> > > > > occurred, I
> > > > > > > check the time, etc.  Shane, is this okay with you?  I'd love
to
> > > put
> > > > > up
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > part where Lucky225 calls Joybubbles and, let's just say
something
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > odd happens!  I think it was Lucky that did this.  I really
ought
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > permission from Joybubbles to put that up, but since I don't
know
> > > it
> > > > > if
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > has access to Email I'd have to send him a voice message and
maybe
> > > > > have
> > > > > him
> > > > > > > call me back on CNET?  Don't really want to give out my PSTN
> > > number.
> > > > > And of
> > > > > > > course I've gotta include the part where I blow 2600 and kick
the
> > > last
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > N2 connections off!  Sorry, guys!
> > > > > > > Jayson.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Lucky 225" <Lucky225 at 2600.com>
> > > > > > > To: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>; "Voice Over IP
Tandem
> > > for
> > > > > Analog
> > > > > > > Switches" <voip at ckts.info>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:56 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [VoIP] Wikipedia entry on Phreaking, the section
> > > about
> > > > > Wawina
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Jayson- I'd love the recordings you have from wawina of the
> > > > > conference
> > > > > > >> before the N2 trunks died if you got any of 'em
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 10/9/06, Jayson Smith <ratguy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>>    Hi,
> > > > > > >>> I have no idea who wrote this, but in case you haven't seen
it,
> > > > > here's
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> section of the "Phreaking" entry at Wikipedia concerning
> > > Wawina.  I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>> say, they got it mostly right, although I certainly am not
one
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>> 'famous' phone phreaks.  I guess you could say I'm a phreak,
> > > except
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> never did play around with MF back in the day, etc.  Anyway
here
> > > > > goes,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> hope you enjoy it!
> > > > > > >>> Jayson.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The End of MF
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The end of MF phreaking in the lower 48 United States
occurred
> > > on
> > > > > June
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > 15,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> 2006.
> > > > > > >>> The last exchange in the continental United States to use a
> > > > > "phreakable"
> > > > > > >>> MF-signalled trunk replaced the aging (yet still well kept)
N2
> > > > > carrier
> > > > > > >>> with
> > > > > > >>> a T-1
> > > > > > >>> carrier. This exchange was located in Wawina, MN, (218)-488.
> > > This
> > > > > > >>> particular
> > > > > > >>> exchange was run by the
> > > > > > >>> Northern Telephone Company of Minnesota.
> > > > > > >>> The days building up to the cutover were comparatively
eventful,
> > > as
> > > > > many
> > > > > > >>> phone phreaks from across North America and the world made
calls
> > > > > into
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> was
> > > > > > >>> the last group of MF-able inward trunks in the continental
> > > United
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > States.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> A
> > > > > > >>> message board was set up on +1 (218) 488-1307, for phone
phreaks
> > > > > across
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>> world to "say their goodbyes" to MF signalling and the N2 in
> > > Wawina.
> > > > > > >>> During
> > > > > > >>> the days prior to the cutover, many famous phone phreaks
such as
> > > > > > >>> Mark Bernay,
> > > > > > >>> Joybubbles,
> > > > > > >>> Bob Bernay,
> > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > >>> Captain Crunch
> > > > > > >>> could be heard leaving their comments on the message board.
The
> > > > > official
> > > > > > >>> date for the cutover from N2 to
> > > > > > >>> T-carrier
> > > > > > >>> was Wednesday, June 14. As early as June 7, there was a
> > > noticeable
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > static
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> on
> > > > > > >>> what had previously been clear lines. By Monday, June 12,
many
> > > > > numbers
> > > > > > >>> were
> > > > > > >>> unreachable, and the static had peaked. The recording on +1
> > > (218)
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > 488-1307
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> was generally inaccessible, and MFing through the switch was
> > > > > becoming
> > > > > > >>> increasingly
> > > > > > >>> more difficult due to the increased static. By the 15th, the
end
> > > had
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > come.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> The cutover occurred around 1:38, Eastern Daylight Time. The
> > > Wawina
> > > > > > >>> switchmen had disallowed any more incoming calls to the N2
> > > system,
> > > > > > >>> however,
> > > > > > >>> a few phreaks
> > > > > > >>> were still on the lines. The last two phone phreaks to sit
on a
> > > > > > >>> telephone-company-operated MF trunk in the continental
United
> > > States
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> Lucky225
> > > > > > >>> and Josh from Pittsburgh. Lucky and Josh were idling in a
> > > > > conference,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> the N2 side. A few phone phreaks were sitting on the same
> > > > > conference,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> coming
> > > > > > >>> in through the T-carrier or the
> > > > > > >>> Collector's Network.
> > > > > > >>> Later on, another phone phreak, Jayson Smith, pulsed 2600
> > > through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>> Collector's Network (which does not respond to 2600 Hz or MF
> > > tones).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > That
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> indicated
> > > > > > >>> to all parties on the N2 that the called party had hung up,
> > > which in
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > turn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> winked off Lucky and Josh's last remaining trunks, and ended
the
> > > > > last
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > two
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> inbound
> > > > > > >>> calls ever made on the Wawina N2. Shane, the switchman
running
> > > the
> > > > > > >>> operation, then placed a ceremonial "last call" from the
> > > > > > >>> central office,
> > > > > > >>> and shut down the system for good.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
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