[VoIP] CAMA and UK billing

[Shane Young]

Jayson

Phil McCarter, 377-5252 on CNET, has real pay phones for sale which  
have not been gutted.

--Shane





Quoting Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>:

> Hi,
>
>      This brings me to my next question, acquiring a proper coin phone.
> Unfortunately, most of the payphones I'm seeing on eBay which aren't COCOTs,
> desktop payphones, three-slot payphones or replicas have been converted for
> home use. I assume this means they've gone into the phone, ripped out all
> the guts we're really interested in here E.G. totalizer, coin holding
> chamber and relay, etc. They say coins deposited will go directly to the
> coin box, do not pass Go, do not collect or return, just couldn't resist. Is
> eBay not the best place to look for these phones, and if not, where is?
> Also, if I do get a phone, if I have all the keys, can I access and remove
> the contents of the temporary coin holding chamber or whatever it's called?
> E.G. if I deposit a few coins to insure the thing's producing tones, without
> the ability to activate the relay, I can't collect or return the coins, so
> they'd just be stuck in the holding chamber.
> Thanks for any help.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rudholm" <mark at rudholm.com>
> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at lists.ckts.info>
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] CAMA and UK billing
>
>
> You're exactly right, of course.  ACTS no longer supports inter-LATA
> calling.  Calls outside my LATA just go to a "cannot be completed as
> dialed..." intercept.  Seems like ACTS is falling into disrepair
> lately, as I can't call some places that are in my LATA (730) but
> outside the state (parts of AZ are in LATA 730).  I wouldn't be
> terribly surprised if I got a letter from SBC one of these days
> telling me they will no longer provide my coin service line.
>
> As far as my ASCOT project, I need to do some more work on the
> hardware design and order some more parts.  I made some "quick-and-
> dirty" design choices that I've decided to do the "right" way after
> all.  Partly because it seems a number of people are interested in
> basing work on mine.  I haven't had much time to work on it lately,
> as I've been pretty busy with the work that pays the bills, but the
> project tray is still sitting right here on my desk...
>
> Of course, once the hardware is done, there's still the matter of
> the software.  Simple "collect on supervision" functionality
> shouldn't be too difficult, but full coin tone recognition for
> ACTS emulation will be non-trivial.
>
> I will probably not implement the full compliment of tests
> (initial deposit, stuck coin, etc) since that makes the hardware
> more complicated without really adding much in the way of amusement
> value of the project.
>
> You really should have a non-COCOT single-slot payphone regardless :-)
>
>
> Jayson Smith wrote:
>> You can't make long distance calls from non-COCOT phones, E.G. those that
>> still use ACTS over a coin line. BTW Mark, on a different topic, any
>> progress with your ACTS for Asterisk project? If this ever gets working,
>> I'll have to try to find a non-COCOT single-slot payphone.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steph Kerman" <stfkerman at jps.net>
>> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at lists.ckts.info>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] CAMA and UK billing
>>
>>
>> Why not?  What are the inter-LATA per-minute rates like from a payphone
>> these days?  Is hopper capacity really the reason or is there some other
>> reason.  I'd think the COCOTs allow this since last time I noticed (not
>> recently!) many of them had "25¢ PER MINUTE ANYWHERE IN THE US"
>> emblazoned on them.
>>
>> Steph
>>
>> Mark Rudholm wrote:
>>> Yeah, I can't pay cash for calls outside my LATA
>>> from my payphone now, either.
>>>
>>> Donald Froula wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also recall the pay phones had a chute one could
>>>> fill with the shilling coins. Each meter pulse would
>>>> collect one coin. I once called back to the US using
>>>> coins. The pulses came so fast I literally could not
>>>> feed the coins in fast enough to keep the chute
>>>> filled. It was impossible to keep the "buffer" filled!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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