[VoIP] CAMA and UK billing

[Mark Rudholm]

Indeed he does.

He and other people do sell payphones that have not been
damaged.  A lot of times they say "will work on home line"
but any loop-start payphone will.  I have bought nice
payphones via ebay, including, I kid you not, a New-Old Stock
2C2 in its original box!

Shane Young wrote:
> Jayson
> 
> Phil McCarter, 377-5252 on CNET, has real pay phones for sale which  
> have not been gutted.
> 
> --Shane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>      This brings me to my next question, acquiring a proper coin phone.
>> Unfortunately, most of the payphones I'm seeing on eBay which aren't COCOTs,
>> desktop payphones, three-slot payphones or replicas have been converted for
>> home use. I assume this means they've gone into the phone, ripped out all
>> the guts we're really interested in here E.G. totalizer, coin holding
>> chamber and relay, etc. They say coins deposited will go directly to the
>> coin box, do not pass Go, do not collect or return, just couldn't resist. Is
>> eBay not the best place to look for these phones, and if not, where is?
>> Also, if I do get a phone, if I have all the keys, can I access and remove
>> the contents of the temporary coin holding chamber or whatever it's called?
>> E.G. if I deposit a few coins to insure the thing's producing tones, without
>> the ability to activate the relay, I can't collect or return the coins, so
>> they'd just be stuck in the holding chamber.
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Rudholm" <mark at rudholm.com>
>> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at lists.ckts.info>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] CAMA and UK billing
>>
>>
>> You're exactly right, of course.  ACTS no longer supports inter-LATA
>> calling.  Calls outside my LATA just go to a "cannot be completed as
>> dialed..." intercept.  Seems like ACTS is falling into disrepair
>> lately, as I can't call some places that are in my LATA (730) but
>> outside the state (parts of AZ are in LATA 730).  I wouldn't be
>> terribly surprised if I got a letter from SBC one of these days
>> telling me they will no longer provide my coin service line.
>>
>> As far as my ASCOT project, I need to do some more work on the
>> hardware design and order some more parts.  I made some "quick-and-
>> dirty" design choices that I've decided to do the "right" way after
>> all.  Partly because it seems a number of people are interested in
>> basing work on mine.  I haven't had much time to work on it lately,
>> as I've been pretty busy with the work that pays the bills, but the
>> project tray is still sitting right here on my desk...
>>
>> Of course, once the hardware is done, there's still the matter of
>> the software.  Simple "collect on supervision" functionality
>> shouldn't be too difficult, but full coin tone recognition for
>> ACTS emulation will be non-trivial.
>>
>> I will probably not implement the full compliment of tests
>> (initial deposit, stuck coin, etc) since that makes the hardware
>> more complicated without really adding much in the way of amusement
>> value of the project.
>>
>> You really should have a non-COCOT single-slot payphone regardless :-)
>>
>>
>> Jayson Smith wrote:
>>> You can't make long distance calls from non-COCOT phones, E.G. those that
>>> still use ACTS over a coin line. BTW Mark, on a different topic, any
>>> progress with your ACTS for Asterisk project? If this ever gets working,
>>> I'll have to try to find a non-COCOT single-slot payphone.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steph Kerman" <stfkerman at jps.net>
>>> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at lists.ckts.info>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] CAMA and UK billing
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not?  What are the inter-LATA per-minute rates like from a payphone
>>> these days?  Is hopper capacity really the reason or is there some other
>>> reason.  I'd think the COCOTs allow this since last time I noticed (not
>>> recently!) many of them had "25¢ PER MINUTE ANYWHERE IN THE US"
>>> emblazoned on them.
>>>
>>> Steph
>>>
>>> Mark Rudholm wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I can't pay cash for calls outside my LATA
>>>> from my payphone now, either.
>>>>
>>>> Donald Froula wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also recall the pay phones had a chute one could
>>>>> fill with the shilling coins. Each meter pulse would
>>>>> collect one coin. I once called back to the US using
>>>>> coins. The pulses came so fast I literally could not
>>>>> feed the coins in fast enough to keep the chute
>>>>> filled. It was impossible to keep the "buffer" filled!