[VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk

Sun Dec 23 08:26:29 CST 2007

Understood.  I run fairly current PC hardware with plenty of RAM, so perhaps
this is why I can run gnome with  no adverse effects.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
windmill
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:21 AM
To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk

My peers tell me that running a desktop adversely affects the operation 
of Asterisk and that is why I don't run one. Ideally I would like to 
have only those applications necessary to run Asterisk and take care of 
housekeeping but so far it seems to me that there is no definitive list, 
everything appears to depend upon something else. I have yet to make up 
my mind about whether so much dependency is a good thing or not, at 
present based upon my experiences of the last year I am leaning toward 
the latter view. I can't help thinking that programmers have become very 
lazy over the years relying on endless libraries of basic functions. It 
is more than 20 years since I did any programming so I might be talking 
through my hat as many developments have passed me by since Z80 assembly 
language and Microsoft Basic Compiler. Perhaps I need to start reading 
all those tomes on the computer shelf in my library of books.

Brian

Lee Spenadel wrote:
> I don't know cups.  I run the gnome desktop and I "X" windows to it and
run
> my rpc applications from there.  You can also download the source and
> compile them manually from a command prompt.  I'm still what I consider a
> novice in Linux but I seem to be able to manage the day-to-day tasks
without
> much trouble.
>
> Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
> windmill
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>
> Lee,
>
> I don't have a Linux Desktop on my *boxes but I have seen cups loading 
> at start up, might that be the same thing? My APC RS500 came with 
> Windows software, my other UPSs are all Belkin and I have never yet 
> checked what software comes with them, I'll have to look into this a 
> little more closely. At the moment I use my UPSs to iron out the surges 
> or carry the loads in the majority of outages which generally are around 
> 30 seconds or less. I was asleep a few weeks ago when I heard one UPS 
> beeping, the Windows PC on the APC UPS had shutdown but two *boxes and a 
> second PC as well as my router and network switches were all still alive 
> after a 20 minute outage which I thought was pretty good. The house ELCB 
> had tripped presumably due to a large surge and I was able to reset it 
> as soon as I was aware of it but I don't supposde an outage that long 
> did the batteries in my UPSs any good at all.
>
> Brian
>
> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>   
>> Brian,
>>
>> I'm no guru myself, but here's the link to the i386 version of the apcups
>> daemon for Linux.  It's an RPM which means you double-click it from the
>> Linux desktop and it will automatically install.  I recently installed it
>> and it's working fine:
>>
>>
>>     
>
http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=54413&use_mirror=int
>   
>> ernap&filename=apcupsd-3.14.2-1.el4.i386.rpm&68540459
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
>> windmill
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:37 AM
>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>
>> Lee,
>>
>> I would love to be able to do that but I don't know enough about Linux. 
>> I know that the UPSs can shutdown my Windows PCs because I have seen it 
>> in practice although I don't have any UPS comms set up at all at 
>> present. On the *boxes all the USB and serial ports are disabled to free 
>> up interrupts otherwise the X100P cards might not work.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> Apparently you have bad PC Karma.  Perhaps your * boxes reside on top of
>>>     
>>>       
>> an
>>   
>>     
>>> ancient PBX burial ground...
>>>
>>> Seriously, why not image your hard drive so that when disaster strikes
>>>       
> you
>   
>>> can make a copy and slap it back in to a different machine.  Also, I
>>>       
> would
>   
>>> install the apcupsd on your Linux/ *box?  This way when the reserve
power
>>>     
>>>       
>> of
>>   
>>     
>>> the UPS dips below a certain level it will send a shutdown command to
the
>>> PC.  You won't have to run around shutting down the machines manually
and
>>> they will be shutdown  gracefully.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf
Of
>>> windmill
>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:51 PM
>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>
>>> I'm still not sure why but I have lost four *boxes in the last year for 
>>> one reason or another. Something has become corrupted on the hard drives

>>> and I'm fairly certain that the almost daily power outages a few months 
>>> ago had a great deal to do with it, that was before I had UPSs, they 
>>> will only carry the load for 15 or 20 minutes but it's enough for most 
>>> outages. Having said that there was a power fault yesterday which took 
>>> out my village and about 20 others around Lincoln yesterday at 0813 and 
>>> it took Central Electricity Networks 20 minutes to restore the supply by

>>> which time I had manually switched off all my telephone and computer 
>>> equipment. I'll be shopping for more UPS kit in the January sales and 
>>> another PC or two if I can't get my old *boxes running again, I think 
>>> one has developed a motherboard fault which prevents it from reading the

>>> hard drive.
>>>
>>> Nothing seems to go smoothly these days, I have been trying to get ahead

>>> and delve deeper into Asterisk and Linux but things keep getting in the 
>>> way, so much so that I tend to describe myself as 'on permanent
>>>       
> interrupt'
>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> !
>>   
>>     
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I can tell you that I have had no major problems rebuilding my * PBX on
>>>> Centos 4.5 and Asterisk 1.4.13.  It's been rock solid, though the
Shared
>>>> Line Appearance is feature still eludes me :(
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf
>>>>         
> Of
>   
>>>> windmill
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:26 AM
>>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>>
>>>> Ah yes FWD can be quite unreliable going down for hours at the weekend.

>>>> For backup I have the FWD communicator on my desktop but generally both

>>>> IAX and SIP are out together.
>>>>
>>>> I use Zoiper but also have Xlite and Express Talk with all three
running
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> from a single desktop.  I prefer real phones but  multiple softphones
on
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> a desktop are very handy for testing a dialplan from a single point. I 
>>>> guess I'll be doing some of that over the next few days now that I've 
>>>> had to rush my experimental *pbx6 into service and then I'll be looking

>>>> to rebuild/update my failed *pbx2 possibly giving Fedora 8 a try as I 
>>>> got it on the front of a magazine last week.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I was having trouble with FWD running under iax - I don't think they
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> were
>>   
>>     
>>>>> supporting it well at the time, so I went the sip route.  I also use
>>>>>           
> the
>   
>>>>> X-lite soft phone which seems to work well too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
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