[VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
windmill
windmill at topletter.com
Sun Dec 23 11:28:41 CST 2007
Mark,
I hear what you say but I am using low speed P2 and P3 systems with no
more than 128Mb RAM. My current *box is built on a 10 year old motherboard.
Mark Rudholm wrote:
> Running a desktop, like anything, requires system resources, but there is no
> particular incompatibility with running a "desktop" and *. Given enough
> memory
> and cpu, expect no problems. In a commercial setting where * is serving as
> a corporate PBX, I'd avoid running anything else on the same system, but
> for home/hobbyist use, I wouldn't worry about it. I run a dual-display
> "destktop"
> (XFCE4), various daemons (NFS server, CIFS server, a music server, CUPS),
> as well as use the system as a movie and music player, and * works fine.
> It's a 2GHz AMD-64, but it never even breaks a sweat.
>
> Also keep in mind that a dependency on a shared object is not the same thing
> as a dependency on an executable or daemon. Shared objects and modular
> object code are a very good thing.
>
> windmill wrote:
>
>> My peers tell me that running a desktop adversely affects the operation
>> of Asterisk and that is why I don't run one. Ideally I would like to
>> have only those applications necessary to run Asterisk and take care of
>> housekeeping but so far it seems to me that there is no definitive list,
>> everything appears to depend upon something else. I have yet to make up
>> my mind about whether so much dependency is a good thing or not, at
>> present based upon my experiences of the last year I am leaning toward
>> the latter view. I can't help thinking that programmers have become very
>> lazy over the years relying on endless libraries of basic functions. It
>> is more than 20 years since I did any programming so I might be talking
>> through my hat as many developments have passed me by since Z80 assembly
>> language and Microsoft Basic Compiler. Perhaps I need to start reading
>> all those tomes on the computer shelf in my library of books.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I don't know cups. I run the gnome desktop and I "X" windows to it and run
>>> my rpc applications from there. You can also download the source and
>>> compile them manually from a command prompt. I'm still what I consider a
>>> novice in Linux but I seem to be able to manage the day-to-day tasks without
>>> much trouble.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
>>> windmill
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:20 PM
>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>
>>> Lee,
>>>
>>> I don't have a Linux Desktop on my *boxes but I have seen cups loading
>>> at start up, might that be the same thing? My APC RS500 came with
>>> Windows software, my other UPSs are all Belkin and I have never yet
>>> checked what software comes with them, I'll have to look into this a
>>> little more closely. At the moment I use my UPSs to iron out the surges
>>> or carry the loads in the majority of outages which generally are around
>>> 30 seconds or less. I was asleep a few weeks ago when I heard one UPS
>>> beeping, the Windows PC on the APC UPS had shutdown but two *boxes and a
>>> second PC as well as my router and network switches were all still alive
>>> after a 20 minute outage which I thought was pretty good. The house ELCB
>>> had tripped presumably due to a large surge and I was able to reset it
>>> as soon as I was aware of it but I don't supposde an outage that long
>>> did the batteries in my UPSs any good at all.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> I'm no guru myself, but here's the link to the i386 version of the apcups
>>>> daemon for Linux. It's an RPM which means you double-click it from the
>>>> Linux desktop and it will automatically install. I recently installed it
>>>> and it's working fine:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=54413&use_mirror=int
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ernap&filename=apcupsd-3.14.2-1.el4.i386.rpm&68540459
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
>>>> windmill
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:37 AM
>>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>>
>>>> Lee,
>>>>
>>>> I would love to be able to do that but I don't know enough about Linux.
>>>> I know that the UPSs can shutdown my Windows PCs because I have seen it
>>>> in practice although I don't have any UPS comms set up at all at
>>>> present. On the *boxes all the USB and serial ports are disabled to free
>>>> up interrupts otherwise the X100P cards might not work.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently you have bad PC Karma. Perhaps your * boxes reside on top of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ancient PBX burial ground...
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, why not image your hard drive so that when disaster strikes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> can make a copy and slap it back in to a different machine. Also, I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> would
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> install the apcupsd on your Linux/ *box? This way when the reserve power
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the UPS dips below a certain level it will send a shutdown command to the
>>>>> PC. You won't have to run around shutting down the machines manually and
>>>>> they will be shutdown gracefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
>>>>> windmill
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:51 PM
>>>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still not sure why but I have lost four *boxes in the last year for
>>>>> one reason or another. Something has become corrupted on the hard drives
>>>>> and I'm fairly certain that the almost daily power outages a few months
>>>>> ago had a great deal to do with it, that was before I had UPSs, they
>>>>> will only carry the load for 15 or 20 minutes but it's enough for most
>>>>> outages. Having said that there was a power fault yesterday which took
>>>>> out my village and about 20 others around Lincoln yesterday at 0813 and
>>>>> it took Central Electricity Networks 20 minutes to restore the supply by
>>>>> which time I had manually switched off all my telephone and computer
>>>>> equipment. I'll be shopping for more UPS kit in the January sales and
>>>>> another PC or two if I can't get my old *boxes running again, I think
>>>>> one has developed a motherboard fault which prevents it from reading the
>>>>> hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing seems to go smoothly these days, I have been trying to get ahead
>>>>> and delve deeper into Asterisk and Linux but things keep getting in the
>>>>> way, so much so that I tend to describe myself as 'on permanent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> interrupt'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can tell you that I have had no major problems rebuilding my * PBX on
>>>>>> Centos 4.5 and Asterisk 1.4.13. It's been rock solid, though the Shared
>>>>>> Line Appearance is feature still eludes me :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> windmill
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:26 AM
>>>>>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Asterisk-SIP Trunk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yes FWD can be quite unreliable going down for hours at the weekend.
>>>>>> For backup I have the FWD communicator on my desktop but generally both
>>>>>> IAX and SIP are out together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Zoiper but also have Xlite and Express Talk with all three running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> from a single desktop. I prefer real phones but multiple softphones on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> a desktop are very handy for testing a dialplan from a single point. I
>>>>>> guess I'll be doing some of that over the next few days now that I've
>>>>>> had to rush my experimental *pbx6 into service and then I'll be looking
>>>>>> to rebuild/update my failed *pbx2 possibly giving Fedora 8 a try as I
>>>>>> got it on the front of a magazine last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee Spenadel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was having trouble with FWD running under iax - I don't think they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> were
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> supporting it well at the time, so I went the sip route. I also use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> X-lite soft phone which seems to work well too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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