[VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?

[Dennis D Hock]

Lee,

I certainly understand.  To clarify what I meant was that you being aware
of tsome of their IT componentry would recognize the importance for this
and as you have already stated you wouldn't want to provision an Asterisk
there.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that you need to pick it all up but only that
you would know about the difficulty and importance.

Dennis H.

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To: "'Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches'" <voip at ckts.info>
From: "Lee Spenadel" <lee at spenadel.com>
Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
Date: 07/17/2007 07:08PM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?

True, but municipalities/government agencies have certain minimum
requirements that must be met in order to be considered.  I don't  meet
(nor
do I want to) those minimum requirements.

-----Original Message-----
From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
Dennis D Hock
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:53 AM
To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
Cc: 'Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches'
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?

Lee as a maintainer of their computer system you are in a great position to
know just how critical those communication devices can be and need to be
treated.

Dennis H.

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To: <jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org>, "'Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog
Switches'" <voip at ckts.info>
From: "Lee Spenadel" <lee at spenadel.com>
Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
Date: 07/17/2007 10:02AM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?

This is not something I would be installing - just creating the spec and
putting it out to bid.  To take on that liability with an Emergency
services
department is not something I am interested in.  It's bad enough I maintain
their computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
John Novack
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:35 AM
To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?



Lee Spenadel wrote:
> E911 trunks terminate in to a separate E911 terminal maintained by the
> County.  I haven't delved into that aspect of it and may not have to.
I'd
> be nervous looking at an Asterisk solution that is not fully redundant
with
> some sort of hot-swap capability.
>
> Lee
>
I have to agree with Mark

Asterisk for business, hospitals and emergency services, even the more
mundane office type requirements is NOT a safe solution
The so called "legacy" telephone systems are a much better solution, are
much more reliable than any general purpose PC based solution, and, when
ones time is factored in, cheaper.
The 842 and 942 phones are OK for my desk, but I would NEVER sell then
to a customer. No backlit display, mediocre sound quality and no power
over Ethernet are all killers, IMO.

Depending on requirements, a nice NEC system or systems, available
through either Graybar or Target Distributing will give many years of
reliable service at a really low cost. Voice mail in skin is available
as well, that makes the Asterisk VM truly "Comedian Mail"

Asterisk is fine for us to play with and connect or switches together,
but if you put one in a real business, you had better be ready to
babysit the system, the users, and do LOTS of customizing.
Also, better crank up the limits on your business liability policy!

John Novack

> -----Original Message-----
> From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of
> Mark Rudholm
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:17 PM
> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Traditional PBX or VoIP Based?
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure I'd trust emergency services to
> Asterisk.  A well-designed IP network can be made to be
> very robust and reliable, but most are not.  Asterisk
> can be made to be reasonably reliable, but ultimately
> PC hardware (and general-purpose OSes) can't match the
> uptime of purpose-built hardware running an embedded
> real-time OS.
>
> Now, if they have a good radio system for emergency
> communication and the phones are just sort of a day-to-day
> thing, then sure.
>
> How are (E)911 calls being handled?
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