[VoIP] Numbering - existing use of 311

[Dennis D Hock]

That could very well be.  Depends on the local calling area and where one
is at.  Also seems like Verizon (GTE) was allowed to implement slightly
different than att/SBC/Ameritech.  All in all a bit of  a headache.  Seems
like it would be much easier to just move to ten digit dialing and be done
with it. Or a the very least allow it to complete if it should and not
block it based on some politcal decision.  The reason fro not iallowing the
1 and ten to complete according tot eh PSC is that everyone knows when you
dial 1 it is long distance and this sends the wrong information to the
customer.  So better to block it.

Dennis H.

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From: Steph Kerman <stfkerman at jps.net>
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Date: 05/31/2007 09:37AM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Numbering - existing use of 311

I could be mistaken but I think I my sister said that in the 989 NPA
where she lives there are both 10 and 11 digit calls within the
immediate surrounding part of the Saginaw-Bay City-Midland area.  Sounds
like what you are describing.  She might have even said that there were
cases where there were both 10 and 11 digit calls to the same exchange.
I'm not sure about this second part.

If that seems confusing, when they split eastern Long Island (Suffolk
County) from 516 to 631 some years ago, they divided the 420 exchange
serving Farmingdale into a 516 and 631 part.   Farmingdale straddles the
Nassau-Suffolk County line.  Calls from outside the area only complete
with the correct area code.  So it was impossible to determine which
area code to dial.  One person I knew stayed with 516-420 while another
ended up with a 631-420 number.   People within the same exchange have
to dial the other area code to reach people on the other side of the
county line.

Maybe the county line runs through the CO building and they assigned all
line equipments on one side of the line to 516 and those on the other to
631, reassigning people to different line equipment to match the
geographical location of their line equipment with the side of the
county line they are on.  Nothing would surprise me.

SK

Dennis D Hock wrote:
> I am not sure but suspect as John and others have indicated I'll bet it
is
> working somewhere in the vast NANP.  In Michigan where I live we have
> received extended local calling to any adjacent exchange that touches
> yours.  Now one would think that would mean you could dial it as a seven
> digit number. Nope guess again, and you can't dial it as a 1 plus ten
> digit.  It can only be dialed as ten digits.  You think I would remember
> when calling the Home Depot in the next town over but almost every time
it
> takes me two or three tries to get it right.
>
> Dennis Hock
>
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>
>
> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches <voip at ckts.info>
> From: Steph Kerman <stfkerman at jps.net>
> Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
> Date: 05/30/2007 08:18AM
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Numbering - existing use of 311
>
> Aren't there areas of the country where 10-digit dialing is used without
> 1+?  Or are do these only allow local or intra-LATA dialing to those few
> nearby NPAs?
>
> Steph
>
> Dennis D Hock wrote:
>
>> Yes 311 has been designated for non emergency access to ones supposed
>>
> local
>
>> govt unit.  I think the confusion here is in calling 311 a NPA.  I
>>
> believe
>
>> the Notes on the Network indicate that it and all n11 codes are really
>>
> SAC
>
>> and have no real NPA designation.
>>
>> T
>>
>>
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