[VoIP] Line reversals for payphones.....

Dennis D Hock hockd at dteenergy.com
Tue Nov 6 05:23:45 CST 2007


That is what I had kind of assumed.  That is when I receive an answer supv
was it really the correct point in the call.  But hey this is how we find
out and perhaps migrate as we can to better hardware and software.

Thanks,

Dennis

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To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches <voip at ckts.info>
From: Steph Kerman <stfkerman at jps.net>
Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
Date: 11/06/2007 05:45AM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Line reversals for payphones.....

Dennis,

I think the whole picture is this:
CNET is capable of transmitting answer supervision.  If the terminating
end is using a cheap modem card FXO it will always report an answer
condition shortly after outpulsing into the terminating switch.  If you
are using a Sipura SPA2K like Jayson and have answer supervision
enabled, you will get answer supervision soon after dialing when you
call a destination that is using one of these FXOs.  Otherwise you will
get it correctly at the actual time of answer.

Steph

Dennis D Hock wrote:
> Jayson, Andy,
>
> That is what I was referring to.  I also have one of the channels on my
> SPA2K set to provide a line reversal on answer.  I haven't looked at it
for
> a while and can't recall if it always seemed to come when I would have
> expected it.  It definitely was not an immediate type supervision.
>
> Dennis Hock
>
> -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: -----
>
>
> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at ckts.info>
> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
> Date: 11/05/2007 09:59PM
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Line reversals for payphones.....
>
> My Sipura SPA2K can optionally reverse polarity on answer. I have mine
> doing
> this, just so I can hear the click when a line is answered.
> Jayson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis D Hock" <hockd at dteenergy.com>
> To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at ckts.info>
> Cc: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" <voip at ckts.info>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Line reversals for payphones.....
>
>
>
>> Andy,
>>
>> Are you sure the Sipura doesn't reverse on answer as an option.  It
seems
>> to me I recall the couple I have being able to option it.  Don't know
for
>> sure if it really does it or not.
>>
>> Dennis Hock
>>
>> -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: -----
>>
>>
>> To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches <voip at ckts.info>
>> From: Andy Greening <axg at syntec.co.uk>
>> Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info
>> Date: 11/05/2007 03:49PM
>> Subject: [VoIP] Line reversals for payphones.....
>>
>> Gents,
>>
>> Here's a little challenge to someone who knows far more about * than I
do
>> ;-}
>>
>> I have a UAX12 here in Blighty (ok it's off the air at the minute, it's
>> just
>> moved location at home and I've got to find time to cable it again!) and
>>
> I
>
>> have a Pay-on-answer payphone which I want to be able to use on Cnet.
The
>> problem I have is this:-
>>
>> For the payphone to work correctly the junction to the * needs to have
>>
> its
>
>> polarity reversed when the far end answers, and at certain periods
>> throughout the call 'silent line reversals' would be applied to the
>> junction
>> to give the metering.
>>
>> I use a Grandstream handytone ATA as my outgoing junction, and AFAIAA no
>> ATA
>> offers line reversal on answer.
>>
>> The only way I can see that the line reversals can be done is to have a
>> relay card in the * box and when the answer comes from Cnet have some
>>
> sort
>
>> of code make a relay on the card change over. The silent line reversals
>> would be a bonus, (so that the metering comes from the junction) but is
>> not
>> critical, as these can be 'spoofed' locally.
>>
>> Does anyone out there have the skills to give this a go?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Andy G
>>
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