[VoIP] Question on connecting old dial telephone

Jayson Smith ratguy at insightbb.com
Mon Oct 1 09:07:32 CDT 2007


Hi,

    I think RP under Asterisk would be cool! Especially if two Asterisk
systems could RP to each other, even though that's totally unnecessary. A
question though? I'm wondering, would you have Asterisk pulse as quickly as
possible, or, for old times' sake, implement panel-like timing for each
digit? Thanks.
Jayson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duncan Smith" <duncan.b.smith at gmail.com>
To: "CNET List" <voip at ckts.info>
Cc: "Phil Braverman" <braverma at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Question on connecting old dial telephone


> Phil wrote:
> > My name is Phil Braverman and I am very interested in old telephone
> > technology.  I was reading your Website and I found that you can
> > call into the Seattle Museum of communications switches that are
> > connected to the CNET network that you all started a few years ago
> > by using asterisk IP tandom switches.
> >
> > My question is that I have a PAP2 unlocked VOIP adapter taht can
> > accept touchtone or dial pulses.  Is it possible for me to hook up
> > my dial phone in San Jose California to the panel switch at the
> > Seattle Museum of Communications using Voip so I would have a
> > number coming out of the panel switch to my phone.  When I remove
> > the reciever of my telephone it would have a dial tone originating
> > from the switch.  The VOIP would be like a tieline from the switch
> > to my telephone.  For example if I was assigned 722-1701, this
> > would be my telephone number.
>
> Hi Phil!  My name is Duncan Smith.  Among other things, I'm the
> volunteer in charge of Asterisk at the Seattle museum.
>
> We don't have our switches online yet; we're waiting for a T1 card to
> be either bought or donated.  (I am very pleased to announce that this
> week I received two RP units for a D4 channel bank!)  Eventually you
> will be able to call into the EM switches when the Museum is open
> (1XB, 5XB, Panel, and perhaps others including Step and CX-100), as
> well as our 3ESS all the time.
>
> I don't think you _really_ want a line to the Panel switch for a
> couple of reasons:
>
> 1. It's rather crotchety.  Sometimes verticals (what's the proper
>    term, anyway?) get stuck, and have to be manually restored to
>    normal.
>
> 2. We don't run it all the time; around four hours a week is usual.
>
> 3. You won't be able to dial out to CNET, because Panel switches were
>    never fitted for DDD; so far as I know all toll calls were
>    operator-handled.  Thus, a Panel switch can only out-pulse the last
>    five digits of the dialed number.  (Could someone please prove me
>    wrong?)
>
> I don't even think that the Panel switch will be online very soon
> after we get a T1 card!  I'll have to hack up Zaptel to support RP
> signalling, which might take a while.
>
> I understand that you like Panel, though.  I also think it's neat.  :)
>
> The plan is to get some recordings on our Asterisk machine as soon as
> we can, so that you can at least pretend.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 02:23:25PM -0500, Greg Blakely wrote:
> > Phil sent me this inquiry.  I can think of a few ways that might
> > give him most of what he wants, but I don't see how to give him dial
> > tone from the panel office, and, along those lines, I don't see a
> > way for him to listen to the call progress through the panel office
> > as he dials.
>
> The first part is (in my mind) fairly simple; all that's physically
> necessary on the Seattle end is a FXO D4 channel bank card, wired to a
> line presence on the Panel switch.  The simplest solution would be to
> do some sort of pulse conversion in my Asterisk.
>
> Isn't it possible to have Asterisk place a call immediately on
> off-hook?  I don't know if they're using Asterisk, but on the front
> desk at one of my local hospitals is a set which, when picked up, puts
> the caller directly into a queue to speak to an operator.  I would
> think that such a use (as a "hot-line") would be rather common.
>
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