From ian at uax.org.uk Tue Apr 1 02:08:24 2008 From: ian at uax.org.uk (Ian Jolly) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:08:24 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] UK Speaking Clock Message-ID: <98286F63855947A5B04EE7A4D6FD269A@IanPC> We have a slight problem with the UK Speaking Clock - on +44 8081 - on the UK loop :-( Due to 'royalty' problems initially believed to have been caused by a request from Sarah Mendez de Costalot (one of the voices of the Speaking Clock over the years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_clock#List_of_voices_heard_on_the_British_speaking_clock) for royalties on the number of times that the Speaking Clock is called, the Speaking Clock has had to be moved 'off shore' until the problem is sorted out. It is then outside the control of UK authorities and a lot cheaper to run ! ;-) However the clock service is still available to those of you who use the UK's 'Speaking Clock' loop on +448081. We hope to have the service with Pat Symmonds resumed as soon as possible. Ian Jolly Home of the 'Speaking Clock (North) From madmanmarkau at hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 04:19:38 2008 From: madmanmarkau at hotmail.com (Mad Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:19:38 +0000 Subject: [VoIP] UK Speaking Clock In-Reply-To: <98286F63855947A5B04EE7A4D6FD269A@IanPC> References: <98286F63855947A5B04EE7A4D6FD269A@IanPC> Message-ID: Ian, you ARE incorrigible. Sarah Mendez de "Cost-a-lot"? Tsk tsk. First the CNET charges, now the speaking clocks. You've outdone yourself, and undone us. :) > From: ian at uax.org.uk > To: voip at ckts.info > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:08:24 +0100 > Subject: [VoIP] UK Speaking Clock > > We have a slight problem with the UK Speaking Clock - on +44 8081 - on the UK loop :-( > > Due to 'royalty' problems initially believed to have been caused by a request from Sarah Mendez de Costalot (one of the voices of the Speaking Clock over the years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_clock#List_of_voices_heard_on_the_British_speaking_clock) for royalties on the number of times that the Speaking Clock is called, the Speaking Clock has had to be moved 'off shore' until the problem is sorted out. > > It is then outside the control of UK authorities and a lot cheaper to run ! ;-) > > However the clock service is still available to those of you who use the UK's 'Speaking Clock' loop on +448081. > > We hope to have the service with Pat Symmonds resumed as soon as possible. > > Ian Jolly > Home of the 'Speaking Clock (North) > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ _________________________________________________________________ Fashion, beauty, health, relationship advice and horoscopes. http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=873&referral=MarchHotmailTagline&URL=http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/?ocid=T003HOT40A0710G From ian at uax.org.uk Tue Apr 1 09:31:33 2008 From: ian at uax.org.uk (Ian Jolly) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:31:33 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] A new phone ;-) Message-ID: I can across this today - anyone interested ? Actimax fancies the Pherophone JAPANESE scientists have developed a mobile phone which can advise users if there is a sexually compatible partner close by and an Essex based telephony supplier could be one of the first companies in this country to stock the device after securing an exclusive distribution deal with the makers. The 'Pherophone', manufactured by Natsuki Corp, uses advance pheromone technology to detect if a sexually compatible person is near and sends a silent message advising the user. The phone also shows how close you are to the person via an indicator bar similar to a mobile service signal strength indicator. John Massey one of the UK's leading suppliers of converged telephony solutions told CNET. "I have met the manufacturers who came to my Basildon HQ to show me how the phones work. It was hilarious seeing my staff running round room checking out who was compatible with whom and it threw up some interesting surprises! I have ordered an initial batch and hope to have them available via our website in a month!" Kirsty Jones, senior consultant at leading online dating agency Getadata.com, commented: "This is a brilliant invention and will save all that wasted time chatting up people that will ultimately have no interest in you. I expect it will become an essential tool for people in crowded bars and anywhere there is a chance to meet someone special. Just imagine the thrill of getting a full indicator bar when sitting next to someone on the train!" From spenadel at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 15:46:04 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:46:04 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] LED Slide Base Lamp Replacements Message-ID: <042601c89439$681c21e0$385465a0$@com> If anyone is interested, I've received some samples of 48 volt LED slide base lamps that I'm using on my step switch for power indicators for various power feeds, such as LCO banks, Selectors, Connectors, etc. The amber LED lamp, when placed behind a white lens cap, is pretty darn close to the warmth of the 2Y lamp that I'm replacing. I wouldn't recommend using these in a switchboard that must pass line current through the filament, but for a simple power indicator, it's working quite nicely without the heat generation. Here are the details: Link to website: http://www.powerlineleds.com/lamps_slide_based.asp Type bulbs that I received: 48LS2-W1 (White) - bright white 48LS2-A1 (Amber) - matches the warmth of the 2Y behind a white lens cap 48LS2-G (Green) Just passing the info along. Lee From spenadel at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 10:26:15 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:26:15 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] 48 Volt Bayonet Switch Frame Lamps Message-ID: <016f01c89731$6400e0f0$2c02a2d0$@com> I'm looking for replacement 48 volt bayonet lamps used in the clamp lights in central offices. The part number on this bulb is NS16197 L2-48V. If anyone has spare to sell, please contact me off list. Thanks Lee From kxt at fubegra.net Sat Apr 5 13:12:31 2008 From: kxt at fubegra.net (Russ Price) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:12:31 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] Site updates - new app_asr for 1.4 Message-ID: <47F7C10F.7040709@fubegra.net> I've made some updates to my site at : Added app_asr suitable for use on Asterisk 1.4 Updated zaptel-cnet tarball to 1.2.24 Updated asterisk-cnet tarball to 1.2.27 The latest zaptel-cnet has an additional tone zone (xu in zaptel.conf, 102 in zapata.conf) with old-style UK tones. Russ CNET +1 442 7877 From doctor.jack.ryan at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 19:32:34 2008 From: doctor.jack.ryan at gmail.com (Jack Ryan) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:02:34 +0930 Subject: [VoIP] What does this asterisk warning mean? Message-ID: Hello all, I added a dual port SIP ATA to asterisk and I get the following warning: [Apr 3 08:52:27] WARNING[12462]: chan_sip.c:12741 handle_response: Remote host can't match request NOTIFY to call '2d4b898872ff215b5d58a92938d7f76a at ...'. Giving up. The IP address is that of the asterisk server. The ATA otherwise appears to be working. Thanks Jack From pdwills at verizon.net Mon Apr 7 06:58:43 2008 From: pdwills at verizon.net (Paul Wills) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [VoIP] Cut off from the world Message-ID: <6464491.1308091207569523840.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> Hello all, This is just a note to say that I came home from Michigan to a blown router. I am totally disconnected from everything for the immediate future. I can check email via webmail but don't expect a quick answer. Thanks, PDW From spenadel at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 09:14:05 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:14:05 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program Message-ID: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> Hi all, I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR code. I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better recognition? Thanks Lee From kxt at fubegra.net Mon Apr 7 10:11:48 2008 From: kxt at fubegra.net (Russ Price) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:11:48 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> Message-ID: <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> Lee Spenadel wrote: > I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It > worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently > misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. > Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR code. > I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the > archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better > recognition? About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." Russ CNET +1 442 7877 From spenadel at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 10:26:31 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:26:31 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> Message-ID: <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> I cut and pasted the code. I don't see any "I" in the code, just an exclamation point in the enum lookup code. [cnetdemo] exten => s,1,Wait(1) exten => s,n,Answer() exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) exten => s,n(asr),ASR(12d6-) exten => s,n,Playback(numwant) exten => s,n,Goto(asr) exten => _digits.,1,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) exten => _digits.,n,Goto(cnetgatelookup,${EXTEN:6},1) But since I can't even get a correct read back on the spoken numbers, the enum lookup isn't even an issue. I did change the name of the contexts, but the pe Lee -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of Russ Price Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:12 AM To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program Lee Spenadel wrote: > I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It > worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently > misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. > Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR code. > I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the > archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better > recognition? About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." Russ CNET +1 442 7877 _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From pd at pjd.org.uk Mon Apr 7 12:08:13 2008 From: pd at pjd.org.uk (Peter Duffield) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:08:13 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> Message-ID: Hi Lee I am using Russ' ASR and John Coverts script with 100% recognition rates. Being in the UK, I have the language set to UK English in line 2 exten => s,n,Set(l=3) ; U.K. English It might be worth a try. Peter On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:14:05 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" wrote: >Hi all, > > > >I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It >worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently >misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. >Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR code. >I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the >archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better >recognition? > > > >Thanks > >Lee From pd at pjd.org.uk Mon Apr 7 12:08:23 2008 From: pd at pjd.org.uk (Peter Duffield) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:08:23 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> Message-ID: <18lkv35c7vnthrlbb69ccb7deqrt5hs9d7@4ax.com> Lee, you don't appear to have the line which sets the language, in which case it defaults to German. Here's the one I'm using from the wiki....... [operatordemo] exten => s,1,Ringing() exten => s,n,Set(l=2) ; U.S. English exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n,Answer exten => s,n,Ringing() exten => s,n,Noop(${CALLERID(all)}) exten => s,n,ASR(t1l${l}d) ; 1 millisecond to prime the server connection after long idle time exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) ; "Number please" exten => s,n(asr),ASR(t20000l${l}d) ; Accept digits for up to 20 seconds with default timeout exten => s,n,Noop(${ASRMSG}) exten => s,n,Gotoif($"${ASRMSG}" != "Server timeout"?want) ; Recognition failure exten => s,n,Playback(server&connection-failed) exten => s,n(want),Playback(numwant) "What number are you wanting, please?" exten => s,n,Goto(asr) ; exten => _digits.,1,Noop(${ASRMSG}) exten => _digits.,n,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) ; tell him what we heard him say exten => _digits.,n,Playback(trying) ; "I'm trying to get them" exten => _digits.,n,Goto(${EXTEN:6},1) ; include here enough of a dialplan to validate the number given ; or maybe even an enum lookup. exten => 21,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; for example, 21 might be a valid extension exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; and we might have local ten digit numbers ;etc exten => i,1,Playback(invalid) ; if it doesn't match the above, give him another chance exten => i,2,Goto(s,want) ; without having to hang up. Peter On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:26:31 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" wrote: >I cut and pasted the code. I don't see any "I" in the code, just an >exclamation point in the enum lookup code. > >[cnetdemo] >exten => s,1,Wait(1) >exten => s,n,Answer() >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) >exten => s,n(asr),ASR(12d6-) >exten => s,n,Playback(numwant) >exten => s,n,Goto(asr) > >exten => _digits.,1,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) >exten => _digits.,n,Goto(cnetgatelookup,${EXTEN:6},1) > >But since I can't even get a correct read back on the spoken numbers, the >enum lookup isn't even an issue. I did change the name of the contexts, but >the pe > > >Lee > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >Russ Price >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:12 AM >To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program > >Lee Spenadel wrote: >> I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It >> worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently >> misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. >> Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR >code. >> I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the >> archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better >> recognition? > >About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in >John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a >vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. > >I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato >manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will >consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." > > Russ > CNET +1 442 7877 > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From spenadel at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 13:20:18 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:20:18 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <18lkv35c7vnthrlbb69ccb7deqrt5hs9d7@4ax.com> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> <18lkv35c7vnthrlbb69ccb7deqrt5hs9d7@4ax.com> Message-ID: <044001c898dc$09685a40$1c390ec0$@com> Peter, thank you. Where did you develop this code? The code I grabbed was off of the archives, which is not as intricate. Many thanks Lee -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of Peter Duffield Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:08 PM To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program Lee, you don't appear to have the line which sets the language, in which case it defaults to German. Here's the one I'm using from the wiki....... [operatordemo] exten => s,1,Ringing() exten => s,n,Set(l=2) ; U.S. English exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n,Answer exten => s,n,Ringing() exten => s,n,Noop(${CALLERID(all)}) exten => s,n,ASR(t1l${l}d) ; 1 millisecond to prime the server connection after long idle time exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) ; "Number please" exten => s,n(asr),ASR(t20000l${l}d) ; Accept digits for up to 20 seconds with default timeout exten => s,n,Noop(${ASRMSG}) exten => s,n,Gotoif($"${ASRMSG}" != "Server timeout"?want) ; Recognition failure exten => s,n,Playback(server&connection-failed) exten => s,n(want),Playback(numwant) "What number are you wanting, please?" exten => s,n,Goto(asr) ; exten => _digits.,1,Noop(${ASRMSG}) exten => _digits.,n,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) ; tell him what we heard him say exten => _digits.,n,Playback(trying) ; "I'm trying to get them" exten => _digits.,n,Goto(${EXTEN:6},1) ; include here enough of a dialplan to validate the number given ; or maybe even an enum lookup. exten => 21,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; for example, 21 might be a valid extension exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; and we might have local ten digit numbers ;etc exten => i,1,Playback(invalid) ; if it doesn't match the above, give him another chance exten => i,2,Goto(s,want) ; without having to hang up. Peter On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:26:31 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" wrote: >I cut and pasted the code. I don't see any "I" in the code, just an >exclamation point in the enum lookup code. > >[cnetdemo] >exten => s,1,Wait(1) >exten => s,n,Answer() >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) >exten => s,n(asr),ASR(12d6-) >exten => s,n,Playback(numwant) >exten => s,n,Goto(asr) > >exten => _digits.,1,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) >exten => _digits.,n,Goto(cnetgatelookup,${EXTEN:6},1) > >But since I can't even get a correct read back on the spoken numbers, the >enum lookup isn't even an issue. I did change the name of the contexts, but >the pe > > >Lee > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >Russ Price >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:12 AM >To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program > >Lee Spenadel wrote: >> I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It >> worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently >> misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the numbers. >> Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR >code. >> I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the >> archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better >> recognition? > >About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in >John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a >vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. > >I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato >manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will >consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." > > Russ > CNET +1 442 7877 > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From pd at pjd.org.uk Mon Apr 7 13:29:27 2008 From: pd at pjd.org.uk (Peter Duffield) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:29:27 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: <044001c898dc$09685a40$1c390ec0$@com> References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> <18lkv35c7vnthrlbb69ccb7deqrt5hs9d7@4ax.com> <044001c898dc$09685a40$1c390ec0$@com> Message-ID: I picked it up here Lee....... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+ASR We have been using it for some time here in the UK but weren't able to use it with *1.4 until Russ kindly modified the app. Peter On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:20:18 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" wrote: >Peter, thank you. Where did you develop this code? The code I grabbed was >off of the archives, which is not as intricate. > >Many thanks >Lee > >-----Original Message----- >From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >Peter Duffield >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:08 PM >To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program > >Lee, you don't appear to have the line which sets the language, in which >case >it defaults to German. Here's the one I'm using from the wiki....... > >[operatordemo] >exten => s,1,Ringing() >exten => s,n,Set(l=2) ; U.S. English >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n,Answer >exten => s,n,Ringing() >exten => s,n,Noop(${CALLERID(all)}) >exten => s,n,ASR(t1l${l}d) ; 1 millisecond to prime the server connection >after long idle time >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) ; "Number please" >exten => s,n(asr),ASR(t20000l${l}d) ; Accept digits for up to 20 seconds >with >default timeout >exten => s,n,Noop(${ASRMSG}) >exten => s,n,Gotoif($"${ASRMSG}" != "Server timeout"?want) ; Recognition >failure >exten => s,n,Playback(server&connection-failed) >exten => s,n(want),Playback(numwant) "What number are you wanting, please?" >exten => s,n,Goto(asr) >; >exten => _digits.,1,Noop(${ASRMSG}) >exten => _digits.,n,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) ; tell him what we heard him say >exten => _digits.,n,Playback(trying) ; "I'm trying to get them" >exten => _digits.,n,Goto(${EXTEN:6},1) > >; include here enough of a dialplan to validate the number given >; or maybe even an enum lookup. > >exten => 21,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; for example, 21 might be a >valid extension >exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; and we might have >local ten digit numbers >;etc > >exten => i,1,Playback(invalid) ; if it doesn't match the above, give him >another chance >exten => i,2,Goto(s,want) ; without having to hang up. > > >Peter > > >On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:26:31 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" >wrote: > >>I cut and pasted the code. I don't see any "I" in the code, just an >>exclamation point in the enum lookup code. >> >>[cnetdemo] >>exten => s,1,Wait(1) >>exten => s,n,Answer() >>exten => s,n,Wait(1) >>exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) >>exten => s,n(asr),ASR(12d6-) >>exten => s,n,Playback(numwant) >>exten => s,n,Goto(asr) >> >>exten => _digits.,1,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) >>exten => _digits.,n,Goto(cnetgatelookup,${EXTEN:6},1) >> >>But since I can't even get a correct read back on the spoken numbers, the >>enum lookup isn't even an issue. I did change the name of the contexts, >but >>the pe >> >> >>Lee >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >>Russ Price >>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:12 AM >>To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >>Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program >> >>Lee Spenadel wrote: >>> I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It >>> worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently >>> misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the >numbers. >>> Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR >>code. >>> I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the >>> archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better >>> recognition? >> >>About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in >>John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a >>vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. >> >>I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato >>manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will >>consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." >> >> Russ >> CNET +1 442 7877 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>VoIP mailing list >>VoIP at ckts.info >>http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >>Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>VoIP mailing list >>VoIP at ckts.info >>http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >>Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From spenadel at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 23:34:48 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:34:48 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] ASR Program In-Reply-To: References: <03ae01c898b9$a45e14e0$ed1a3ea0$@com> <47FA39B4.8060906@fubegra.net> <03e901c898c3$c207e0c0$4617a240$@com> <18lkv35c7vnthrlbb69ccb7deqrt5hs9d7@4ax.com> <044001c898dc$09685a40$1c390ec0$@com> Message-ID: <057e01c89931$e15ec1f0$a41c45d0$@com> Peter, I replaced your code with mine and now enjoy 100% recognition. Thanks Lee -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of Peter Duffield Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program I picked it up here Lee....... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+ASR We have been using it for some time here in the UK but weren't able to use it with *1.4 until Russ kindly modified the app. Peter On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:20:18 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" wrote: >Peter, thank you. Where did you develop this code? The code I grabbed was >off of the archives, which is not as intricate. > >Many thanks >Lee > >-----Original Message----- >From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >Peter Duffield >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:08 PM >To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program > >Lee, you don't appear to have the line which sets the language, in which >case >it defaults to German. Here's the one I'm using from the wiki....... > >[operatordemo] >exten => s,1,Ringing() >exten => s,n,Set(l=2) ; U.S. English >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n,Answer >exten => s,n,Ringing() >exten => s,n,Noop(${CALLERID(all)}) >exten => s,n,ASR(t1l${l}d) ; 1 millisecond to prime the server connection >after long idle time >exten => s,n,Wait(1) >exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) ; "Number please" >exten => s,n(asr),ASR(t20000l${l}d) ; Accept digits for up to 20 seconds >with >default timeout >exten => s,n,Noop(${ASRMSG}) >exten => s,n,Gotoif($"${ASRMSG}" != "Server timeout"?want) ; Recognition >failure >exten => s,n,Playback(server&connection-failed) >exten => s,n(want),Playback(numwant) "What number are you wanting, please?" >exten => s,n,Goto(asr) >; >exten => _digits.,1,Noop(${ASRMSG}) >exten => _digits.,n,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) ; tell him what we heard him say >exten => _digits.,n,Playback(trying) ; "I'm trying to get them" >exten => _digits.,n,Goto(${EXTEN:6},1) > >; include here enough of a dialplan to validate the number given >; or maybe even an enum lookup. > >exten => 21,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; for example, 21 might be a >valid extension >exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(regularcontext,${EXTEN},1) ; and we might have >local ten digit numbers >;etc > >exten => i,1,Playback(invalid) ; if it doesn't match the above, give him >another chance >exten => i,2,Goto(s,want) ; without having to hang up. > > >Peter > > >On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:26:31 -0400, "Lee Spenadel" >wrote: > >>I cut and pasted the code. I don't see any "I" in the code, just an >>exclamation point in the enum lookup code. >> >>[cnetdemo] >>exten => s,1,Wait(1) >>exten => s,n,Answer() >>exten => s,n,Wait(1) >>exten => s,n(num),Playback(numplse) >>exten => s,n(asr),ASR(12d6-) >>exten => s,n,Playback(numwant) >>exten => s,n,Goto(asr) >> >>exten => _digits.,1,SayDigits(${EXTEN:6}) >>exten => _digits.,n,Goto(cnetgatelookup,${EXTEN:6},1) >> >>But since I can't even get a correct read back on the spoken numbers, the >>enum lookup isn't even an issue. I did change the name of the contexts, >but >>the pe >> >> >>Lee >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of >>Russ Price >>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:12 AM >>To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches >>Subject: Re: [VoIP] ASR Program >> >>Lee Spenadel wrote: >>> I took Russ' tweaked ASR program for Asterisk 1.4 and installed it. It >>> worked well recognizing my speech 3 or 4 times, but now consistently >>> misreads my verbal input - no matter how clearly I articulate the >numbers. >>> Likewise, I have no problem on John Covert's implementation of the ASR >>code. >>> I'm using the extensions.conf code straight out of the example from the >>> archives. Are there other tweaks that can be made so that I get better >>> recognition? >> >>About the only thing I can think of is to make sure that the "l's" in >>John's code are really the letter "l" and not the digit "1" or a >>vertical bar. The font used on the VOIP wiki doesn't make it clear. >> >>I've found that I have to carefully pronounce "two" in a staccato >>manner, because if there's a "tail" of sound at the end, it will >>consistently decide that I said "oh" instead of "two." >> >> Russ >> CNET +1 442 7877 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>VoIP mailing list >>VoIP at ckts.info >>http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >>Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>VoIP mailing list >>VoIP at ckts.info >>http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >>Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > >_______________________________________________ >VoIP mailing list >VoIP at ckts.info >http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip >Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From g4vft at btinternet.com Tue Apr 8 06:44:15 2008 From: g4vft at btinternet.com (Jonathan Kay) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:44:15 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] CNET zaptel/asterisk versions Message-ID: <47FB5A8F.50505@btinternet.com> Russ/Guys, I've been trying out the ready patched CNET versions. When I try and set old UK tones "xu" then ztcfg Notice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf line 5: No such tone zone known: xu Change the zaptel entries to "xp" and it doesn't complain. Any thoughts please. TIA Jon From g4vft at btinternet.com Tue Apr 8 14:05:06 2008 From: g4vft at btinternet.com (Jonathan Kay) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:05:06 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] CNET zaptel/asterisk versions In-Reply-To: <47FB5A8F.50505@btinternet.com> References: <47FB5A8F.50505@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <47FBC1E2.2010008@btinternet.com> Ok, Answering my own question. Looks like I've used zaptel 1.2.19, and the xu definitions aren't in zonedata.c Version 1.2.24 has the old UK tones in there. Jon From kxt at fubegra.net Tue Apr 8 14:05:22 2008 From: kxt at fubegra.net (Russ Price) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:05:22 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] CNET zaptel/asterisk versions In-Reply-To: <47FB5A8F.50505@btinternet.com> References: <47FB5A8F.50505@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <47FBC1F2.4030701@fubegra.net> Jonathan Kay wrote: > Russ/Guys, > > I've been trying out the ready patched CNET versions. > When I try and set old UK tones "xu" > then ztcfg > Notice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf > line 5: No such tone zone known: xu > > Change the zaptel entries to "xp" and it doesn't complain. > > Any thoughts please. Hmmm... make sure that the latest ztcfg gets installed (it's in /sbin on my system). If ztcfg doesn't match the driver, it isn't going to work. Russ CNET +1 442 7877 From kxt at fubegra.net Wed Apr 9 21:25:38 2008 From: kxt at fubegra.net (Russ Price) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:25:38 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] More fun with speech recognition Message-ID: <47FD7AA2.8000305@fubegra.net> I've been playing around with another speech recognition system, based on the CMU Sphinx2 engine. A handy little package with an AGI application and a Perl server program connects Asterisk to Sphinx. Advantages: * Does not rely on an outside server that could disappear or hide behind a paywall at any time * Software is free Disadvantages: * Very difficult to set up * Fantastically complicated recognition engine with documentation best suited for computer speech gurus (not I!) * Voice recognition from a carbon mic (like my trusty WECO 2500) is spotty at best - condenser mics are much better * Likely to have problems with UK English - or even with southern US accents I'm running the speech software on one of my Ubuntu MythTV systems, since it has a very fast CPU (Core 2 Duo E8400), and Ubuntu has precompiled sphinx2 packages. The SPREC package that makes Sphinx2 usable with Asterisk is at . The CMU Sphinx programs themselves are at . I'm definitely *not* going to do any handholding regarding how to set this all up - it's highly experimental, and very subject to tweaking - especially if I can somehow figure out a way to make it work better with carbon transmitters. It is *not* a drop-in replacement for app_asr in any way, shape, or form. Oddly, my North Electric 6H6 performs slightly better than the 2500 with this setup - but my Uniden cordless phone works best. I found that a yes/no confirmation step was absolutely vital due to the recognition problems, at any rate, and I run separate recognizers for digits and for yes/no questions. I've set up a CNET robo-operator at +1 442 9901 if you want to test it out. It expects the full CNET number including the country code. I've noticed that the LumenVox engine is now available for Asterisk, with a "starter kit" for $50 - and prices that go up steeply for greater capabilities. Russ +1 442 7877 From frankh192000 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 15 18:57:24 2008 From: frankh192000 at hotmail.com (Frank Hansche) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:57:24 -0700 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training Message-ID: Good afternoon, all. I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then ultimately an legacy switch. I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most likely reach out to the group for some help. One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! Thank you for reading!Frank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport community radio! _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 From t2600 at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 15 19:29:02 2008 From: t2600 at sbcglobal.net (t2600@sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:29:02 -0700 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training References: Message-ID: <005d01c89f58$df7786b0$0301a8c0@pentium4> Welcome aboard Frank, We can always use new talent. Jerry Petrizze Greenfield-01 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Hansche" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training > Good afternoon, all. > > I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then ultimately an legacy switch. > > I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most likely reach out to the group for some help. > > One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. > > Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! > > Thank you for reading!Frank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport community radio! > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _getintouch_042008 > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From pdwills at cedarknolltelephone.com Tue Apr 15 19:27:43 2008 From: pdwills at cedarknolltelephone.com (Paul Wills) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:27:43 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training References: Message-ID: <003301c89f58$b1544ed0$0201a8c0@Main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Hansche" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training > Good afternoon, all. > > I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then > ultimately an legacy switch. > > I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have > worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. > I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 > knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk > PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most > likely reach out to the group for some help. > > One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment > available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract > home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a > larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. > > Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East > Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! > > How close are you to Portland? One of the "patriarchs" of switching is in the area and running a crossbar switch. You also might be interested in the TCI list server as well as a membership in TCI. An electronic membership is $25 a year. For an additional $8, you would receive the Switchers' Quarterly newsletter which has a lot of interesting articles about telephone switches, key systems, etc. I believe you couldn't find a more helpful bunch of folks than you will find right here. Regards, Paul Wills (TCI Webmaster) From novackster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 21:24:14 2008 From: novackster at gmail.com (John Novack) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:24:14 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4805634E.3030209@stromberg-carlson.org> Frank Hansche wrote: > Good afternoon, all. > > I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then ultimately an legacy switch. > > I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most likely reach out to the group for some help. > > One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. > > Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! > > Thank you for reading!Frank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport community radio! > Welcome to the group. When you are up and running on CNET, give me a call 666-9900 As to XBAR, you are probably not going to find much there, unless you are lucky enough to stumble onto a hotel PBX, then you will run into the transport and floor loading issues. Building a small SXS system is much more a possibility. As others have mentioned, Phil McCarter, in Jefferson, OR is a possibility for a nearby source of materials. He also has some ITEC electronic SXS equipment that is surplus to his needs/ ITEC isn't as nice visually, nor does it make all the nice switch sounds, but you could build either in a 23 inch rack less than 7 feet high that won't fall through your floor! John Novack -- Dog is my co-pilot From stfkerman at jps.net Tue Apr 15 22:22:29 2008 From: stfkerman at jps.net (Steph Kerman) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:22:29 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480570F5.6020604@jps.net> Small commercially built crossbar exchanges do exist. Building a small XB exchange is feasible but difficult because the marker circuit, which controls the operation of the switch or switches, is pretty complex and requires a variety of special purpose relays with different coil and contact characteristics. Building a small XB exchange using stored program control with a PC or other CPU board might be a more practical solution if you're not put off by the notion of mixed technologies and have programming skills or are willing to learn. But even with stored program control, you will need to build at least two different types of trunk ciruits to accomplish a complete exchange. Again, the more you are willing to resort to the use of electronic components in the trunk circuits over conventional all-relay designs, the more feasible the task. The use of stored program control also simplifies the trunk circuits, improving the feasibility in this way too. Perhaps the smallest commercially built crossbar exchange is the Ericsson ARD624 PAX, with 16 lines and 2 links (connecting paths). It weighs 100 lbs and stands about 36" tall with a footprint of 18" x 12" or less. I own one and can share scans of some of the documents. The larger 30 line 4 link ARD636 is about 24" wide, similar height and proportionately heavier but certainly nothing that would stress standard floor load capacities of any structure fit for occupany. I also own an NEC PABX equipped for 40 lines. This is about 42" wide, 60" tall, 24" deep and probably weighs 400-600 lbs: much much less than a piano. This exchange uses conventional WECo-style 20-vertical crossbar switches. Finding a abandoned XB PAX or PABX is certainly something to be hoped for but not something you can count on. Small PAXs seem to have been quite few and far between even at the height of their use. There were many many very nice quality Japanese built PABXs installed during the 1970s so it's more likely to find one of them. But even they do not turn up frequently and many of them were the larger systems occupying considerably more floor space and weight than the ones I described. Steph Frank Hansche wrote: > Good afternoon, all. > > I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then > ultimately an legacy switch. > > I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I > have worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized > System 75. I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with > my System 75 knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an > Asterisk PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I > will most likely reach out to the group for some help. > > One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment > available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract > home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a > larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. > > Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. > East Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! > > Thank you for reading!Frank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport > community radio! > From david at josephson.com Tue Apr 15 23:55:23 2008 From: david at josephson.com (David Josephson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:55:23 -0700 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480586BB.4070300@josephson.com> Frank, I had a chance to buy two crossbar switches a couple of years ago and had them shipped out from a collector in New Jersey. I have one of them (a Western Electric SS400) on CNET, and the other (a WE 755) is available for sale. It cost me about $2,700 including shipping and you're welcome to it for that, loaded on your truck in Santa Cruz. It's in a single rack "tombstone" cabinet with covers and a roll-around base. It weighs about 600 pounds, see photos at http://www.telcomhistory.org/vm/exhibitsSeattle6.shtml and http://www.telephonecollectors.org/events/lnc2005/lnc.htm . It's more of a PAX than a PABX in that it doesn't have trunks that can be routed to non-key extensions but it handles 20 lines through 3 links, and 4 incoming trunks on a sort of early key system approach using key phones. There is a "transfer" function that allows CO trunk calls to be transferred from key stations to non-key stations -- it is wired for that but lacks the relay that's required to make this happen. Full docs are included on how to do that. It works fine and includes copies of all relevant practices and the original envelopes of SD drawings. David Josephson From frankh192000 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 03:53:13 2008 From: frankh192000 at hotmail.com (Frank Hansche) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:53:13 -0700 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: <003301c89f58$b1544ed0$0201a8c0@Main> References: <003301c89f58$b1544ed0$0201a8c0@Main> Message-ID: I live in Snoqualmie, which is about three hours north of Portland. So, it would be easy to run down that way. FrankFrank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport community radio! > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:27:43 -0400> From: pdwills at cedarknolltelephone.com> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Switcher in training> To: frankh at easthillradio.com; voip at ckts.info> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Hansche" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:57 PM> Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training> > > > Good afternoon, all.> >> > I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then > > ultimately an legacy switch.> >> > I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have > > worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. > > I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 > > knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk > > PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most > > likely reach out to the group for some help.> >> > One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment > > available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract > > home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a > > larger switch. Any information will be most helpful.> >> > Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East > > Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity!> >> >> > How close are you to Portland? One of the "patriarchs" of switching is in > the area and running a crossbar switch.> > You also might be interested in the TCI list server as well as a membership > in TCI. An electronic membership is $25 a year. For an additional $8, you > would receive the Switchers' Quarterly newsletter which has a lot of > interesting articles about telephone switches, key systems, etc.> > I believe you couldn't find a more helpful bunch of folks than you will find > right here.> > Regards,> > Paul Wills (TCI Webmaster) > _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 From hockd at dteenergy.com Wed Apr 16 04:54:18 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:54:18 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Frank. You have joined a good group of folks who are scattered all over the world and enjoy the discussions about switching both old and new. Crossbar may be very difficult to come by and a small demo Strowger (Step by Step) system would be much easier to come by or assemble. Good luck and when you get on line you can give me a call. Caveat I am not often home to answer but when I am I try to get to the set. Dennis Hock CascoW Telephone 1 269-4998 -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: From: Frank Hansche Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/15/2008 07:57PM Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training Good afternoon, all. I am in the beginning stages of building an Asterisk switch, then ultimately an legacy switch. I have an extensive background in electronics and computers, and I have worked in microwave radio as well as operating a medium sized System 75. I've read the documentation on Asterisk and, combined with my System 75 knowledge, I feel pretty confident about putting up an Asterisk PBX/tandem. When I start to put my legacy switch together, I will most likely reach out to the group for some help. One question I do have is about crossbar switches. Is there equipment available to build a small switch? I live in a typical Northwest tract home, and floor load is an issue. I don't know if my floor will hold a larger switch. Any information will be most helpful. Oh yeah, I was also in broadcasting as a DJ and broadcast engineer. East Hill Radio is my other spot of electronic and computer insanity! Thank you for reading!Frank Hanschewww.easthillradio.comSupport community radio! _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From richardlane at exemail.com.au Wed Apr 16 05:51:25 2008 From: richardlane at exemail.com.au (Richard Lane) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:51:25 +1000 Subject: [VoIP] Siemens Model 36 - 10 Line PAX Message-ID: <4805DA2D.8090604@exemail.com.au> Hi Everyone I have good news to share. Tonight I had a bit of spare time so I decided to put the 10 line PAX on the bench, wire it up to a power supply and a couple of telephones and try it. The unit has a bit of history known about it. It was made sometime in 1936 by Siemens Bros, is an all relay PAX, can support 10 extensions and can have 2 simultaneous calls on it at any time. It also features a supervisory type function which allows a priority extensions to gain control to other extensions. The PAX was originally installed in the Richmond convent in Victoria.It was pulled from service in the 70's when a newer unit was installed. I bought the unit early this year on Ebay for $50 aussie dollars! Anyhow with Ian Jolly's help we managed to get it to dial an extension and place a call. The unit appears to be missing part of its vibrating ringer which stop us getting dialtone or ring cadence but we did get it to count properly and place a call. I am chasing a fuse for it which is a glass fuse about 2 inches long. anyone got one? Anyway I am on track to being the first person on CNET Australia to use heritage electro mechanical gear to interface to other tandems. I will post a few piccies soon and maybe a video of the system working. Richard From spenadel at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 08:13:27 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:13:27 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: <480586BB.4070300@josephson.com> References: <480586BB.4070300@josephson.com> Message-ID: <03d101c89fc3$a98e3f10$fcaabd30$@com> I'm looking for a crossbar switch, like the 755, myself. If anyone has one to sell, please email me off list. Lee -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of David Josephson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:55 AM To: frankh at easthillradio.com; Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches Subject: Re: [VoIP] Switcher in training Frank, I had a chance to buy two crossbar switches a couple of years ago and had them shipped out from a collector in New Jersey. I have one of them (a Western Electric SS400) on CNET, and the other (a WE 755) is available for sale. It cost me about $2,700 including shipping and you're welcome to it for that, loaded on your truck in Santa Cruz. It's in a single rack "tombstone" cabinet with covers and a roll-around base. It weighs about 600 pounds, see photos at http://www.telcomhistory.org/vm/exhibitsSeattle6.shtml and http://www.telephonecollectors.org/events/lnc2005/lnc.htm . It's more of a PAX than a PABX in that it doesn't have trunks that can be routed to non-key extensions but it handles 20 lines through 3 links, and 4 incoming trunks on a sort of early key system approach using key phones. There is a "transfer" function that allows CO trunk calls to be transferred from key stations to non-key stations -- it is wired for that but lacks the relay that's required to make this happen. Full docs are included on how to do that. It works fine and includes copies of all relevant practices and the original envelopes of SD drawings. David Josephson _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Wed Apr 16 08:58:35 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:58:35 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Switcher in training In-Reply-To: <03d101c89fc3$a98e3f10$fcaabd30$@com> References: <480586BB.4070300@josephson.com> <03d101c89fc3$a98e3f10$fcaabd30$@com> Message-ID: <4806060B.7040908@stromberg-carlson.org> As are several of us! Even though the 755 is sort of a hybrid mongrel switch, it is quite an interesting piece, and in great demand. Sorry David transported it all the way West. It COULD have come to WV much easier! Paul Wills is probably the resident expert on the 755, and has even brought it to an East Coast show. John Novack Lee Spenadel wrote: > I'm looking for a crossbar switch, like the 755, myself. If anyone has one > to sell, please email me off list. > > Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of > David Josephson > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:55 AM > To: frankh at easthillradio.com; Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches > Subject: Re: [VoIP] Switcher in training > > Frank, > > I had a chance to buy two crossbar switches a couple of years ago and > had them shipped out from a collector in New Jersey. I have one of them > (a Western Electric SS400) on CNET, and the other (a WE 755) is > available for sale. It cost me about $2,700 including shipping and > you're welcome to it for that, loaded on your truck in Santa Cruz. It's > in a single rack "tombstone" cabinet with covers and a roll-around base. > It weighs about 600 pounds, see photos at > http://www.telcomhistory.org/vm/exhibitsSeattle6.shtml and > http://www.telephonecollectors.org/events/lnc2005/lnc.htm . It's more of > a PAX than a PABX in that it doesn't have trunks that can be routed to > non-key extensions but it handles 20 lines through 3 links, and 4 > incoming trunks on a sort of early key system approach using key phones. > There is a "transfer" function that allows CO trunk calls to be > transferred from key stations to non-key stations -- it is wired for > that but lacks the relay that's required to make this happen. Full docs > are included on how to do that. It works fine and includes copies of all > relevant practices and the original envelopes of SD drawings. > > David Josephson > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot From ian at uax.org.uk Thu Apr 17 11:44:14 2008 From: ian at uax.org.uk (Ian Jolly) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:44:14 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? Message-ID: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC> Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country Code +228 !!! That's got you all wondering? Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it forerunner system over the last 100+ years. Ian J From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Thu Apr 17 11:57:33 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:57:33 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? In-Reply-To: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC> References: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC> Message-ID: <4807817D.7090802@stromberg-carlson.org> Togo? John Novack Ian Jolly wrote: > Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country Code +228 !!! > > That's got you all wondering? > > Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it forerunner system over the last 100+ years. > > Ian J > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot From hockd at dteenergy.com Thu Apr 17 12:13:32 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:13:32 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? In-Reply-To: <4807817D.7090802@stromberg-carlson.org> References: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC>, <4807817D.7090802@stromberg-carlson.org> Message-ID: Isn't that in the Pacific Rim somewhere? or am I just dreaming of retirement. Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: Ian Jolly , Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches From: John Novack Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/17/2008 12:57PM Subject: Re: [VoIP] New nember from ? Togo? John Novack Ian Jolly wrote: > Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country Code +228 !!! > > That's got you all wondering? > > Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it forerunner system over the last 100+ years. > > Ian J > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Thu Apr 17 12:38:44 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:38:44 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? In-Reply-To: References: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC>, <4807817D.7090802@stromberg-carlson.org> Message-ID: <48078B24.1090402@stromberg-carlson.org> Togo is on the West Coast of Africa Google is your friend! John Novack Dennis D Hock wrote: > Isn't that in the Pacific Rim somewhere? or am I just dreaming of > retirement. > > Dennis Hock > -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- > > To: Ian Jolly , Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog > Switches > From: John Novack > Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info > Date: 04/17/2008 12:57PM > Subject: Re: [VoIP] New nember from ? > > Togo? > > John Novack > > > Ian Jolly wrote: > > Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country > Code +228 !!! > > > > That's got you all wondering? > > > > Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it > forerunner system over the last 100+ years. > > > > Ian J > > _______________________________________________ > > VoIP mailing list > > VoIP at ckts.info > > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > > > > > -- > Dog is my co-pilot > > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot From hockd at dteenergy.com Thu Apr 17 12:56:07 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:56:07 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? In-Reply-To: <48078B24.1090402@stromberg-carlson.org> References: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC>, <4807817D.7090802@stromberg-carlson.org> , <48078B24.1090402@stromberg-carlson.org> Message-ID: No time no time working on Audix problems. ;-) Dennis -----John Novack wrote: ----- To: Dennis D Hock From: John Novack Date: 04/17/2008 01:38PM cc: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches , Ian Jolly Subject: Re: [VoIP] New nember from ? Togo is on the West Coast of Africa Google is your friend! John Novack Dennis D Hock wrote: Isn't that in the Pacific Rim somewhere? or am I just dreaming of retirement. Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: Ian Jolly , Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches From: John Novack Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/17/2008 12:57PM Subject: Re: [VoIP] New nember from ? Togo? John Novack Ian Jolly wrote: > Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country Code +228 !!! > > That's got you all wondering? > > Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it forerunner system over the last 100+ years. > > Ian J > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ -- Dog is my co-pilot From axg at syntec.co.uk Thu Apr 17 14:29:43 2008 From: axg at syntec.co.uk (Andy Greening) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:29:43 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? In-Reply-To: <5A91BE0F3A1842BEA1C20360425202EC@IanPC> Message-ID: <00cc01c8a0c1$665cf700$8658b281@andy> I make that Togo, do you? -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of Ian Jolly Sent: 17 April 2008 17:44 To: CNET VoIP Subject: [VoIP] New nember from ? Can I extend a welcome to Steve - our first member from Country Code +228 !!! That's got you all wondering? Steve should find all the help he needs for VoIP and it forerunner system over the last 100+ years. Ian J _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: 16/04/2008 17:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: 16/04/2008 17:34 From spenadel at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 07:00:39 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:39 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] 48 Volt DC Power Plant Message-ID: <01ae01c8a14b$d2af1d90$780d58b0$@com> Sorry for the cross post here. I'm looking to replace my Lorain 48 Volt DC, 12A, ferro-resonant type power plant with a 48 Volt switching supply close to the same amperage. If anyone has one that they wish to part with (no ferro-resonant), please contact me off list. Many thanks Lee From ratguy at insightbb.com Fri Apr 18 09:57:34 2008 From: ratguy at insightbb.com (Jayson Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:57:34 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? Message-ID: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> Hi all, This morning, our house was woken up by an earthquake measuring 5.4. The center was somewhere in Illinois. We felt it here in Louisville, and a building downtown had several hundred bricks knocked off. Someone in Tennessee felt it and had some stuff knocked down in their house. We've heard it was felt in places like Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and as far away as Atlanta. Just wondering who else felt it? Jayson From dfroula at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 18 10:22:40 2008 From: dfroula at sbcglobal.net (Donald Froula) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? In-Reply-To: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> Message-ID: <970081.99692.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My daughter, who is visiting in Indianapolis from Chicago, felt it. She called to say it woke her up as well. We did not notice it in the western Chicago suburbs. Don --- Jayson Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > This morning, our house was woken up by an > earthquake measuring 5.4. > The center was somewhere in Illinois. We felt it > here in Louisville, and a > building downtown had several hundred bricks knocked > off. Someone in > Tennessee felt it and had some stuff knocked down in > their house. We've > heard it was felt in places like Cincinnati, > Milwaukee, and as far away as > Atlanta. Just wondering who else felt it? > Jayson > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > From hockd at dteenergy.com Fri Apr 18 12:50:25 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:50:25 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? In-Reply-To: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> References: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> Message-ID: I heard on WWJ that it was felt in AnnArboir and most of the western suburbs of Detroit. It was supposedly felt like a large truck going down the street in the Northern Suburbs like Mt. Clemens. My wife didn't report feeling anyhting in Richmond, MI. about another 15 miles from Mt Clemens North. Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" From: "Jayson Smith" Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/18/2008 10:57AM Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? Hi all, This morning, our house was woken up by an earthquake measuring 5.4. The center was somewhere in Illinois. We felt it here in Louisville, and a building downtown had several hundred bricks knocked off. Someone in Tennessee felt it and had some stuff knocked down in their house. We've heard it was felt in places like Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and as far away as Atlanta. Just wondering who else felt it? Jayson _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From kxt at fubegra.net Fri Apr 18 18:04:56 2008 From: kxt at fubegra.net (Russ Price) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:04:56 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? In-Reply-To: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> References: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> Message-ID: <48092918.8010709@fubegra.net> Jayson Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > This morning, our house was woken up by an earthquake measuring 5.4. > The center was somewhere in Illinois. That was in West Salem, in southeastern Illinois. I live near Chicago and didn't feel a thing, though. I didn't even know there was an earthquake until I got home from work and got a message from my sister on the answering machine wondering how I was doing. The last time I remember actually feeling an earthquake was when I lived in Champaign, in 1988. That quake's epicenter was in Lawrenceville, just a few miles from today's temblor. I thought that some construction equipment had hit my apartment building, but the lack of noise finally made me realize it was the earth shaking. Russ CNET +1 442 7877 From chad at maine.edu Fri Apr 18 19:49:37 2008 From: chad at maine.edu (Chad Perkins) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:49:37 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Telephone History, or Smoke Signals ... Message-ID: <48090961.10765.A650A01@localhost> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- After having dug to a depth of 10 meters last year, Scottish scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago. Not to be outdone by the Scots, in the weeks that followed, English scientists dug to a depth of 20 meters, and shortly after, headlines in the UK newspapers read: 'English archaeologists have found traces of 200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the Scots.' One week later, 'The Daily Squidjigger,' a Newfoundland newspaper, reported the following: 'After digging as deep as 30 meters near Cornerbrook, Wilf Johnson, a self taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely nothing. Wilf has therefore concluded that 300 years ago Newfoundland had already gone wireless.' Also: An elderly lady phoned her telephone company to report that her telephone failed to ring ... when her friends called - and that on the few occasions when it did ring, her pet dog always moaned right before the phone rang. The telephone repairman proceeded to the scene, curious to see this psychic dog or senile elderly lady. He climbed a nearby telephone pole, hooked in his test set, and dialed the subscriber's house. The phone didn't ring right away, but then the dog moaned loudly and the telephone began to ring. Climbing down from the pole, the telephone repairman found: * The dog was tied to the telephone system's ground wire via a steel chain and collar. * The wire connection to the ground rod was loose. * The dog was receiving 90 volts of signaling current when the phone number was called. * After a couple of such jolts, the dog would start moaning and then urinate on himself and the ground. * The wet ground would complete the circuit, thus causing the phone to ring. Which demonstrates that some problems CAN be fixed by pissing and moaning. ------- End of forwarded message ------- From scottgs at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 18 23:43:10 2008 From: scottgs at bellsouth.net (Garret Scott) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:43:10 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? References: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> Message-ID: <071801c8a1d7$df2f78d0$2f01a8c0@LOKI> I didn't, but my dogs sure did! We're just outside of Knoxville, TN. Garret ----- Original Message ----- Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? From ian at uax.org.uk Sat Apr 19 02:15:19 2008 From: ian at uax.org.uk (Ian Jolly) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:15:19 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? In-Reply-To: <071801c8a1d7$df2f78d0$2f01a8c0@LOKI> References: <001201c8a164$891a1a90$6900a8c0@BOE> <071801c8a1d7$df2f78d0$2f01a8c0@LOKI> Message-ID: <8C4068C649EF471080F34592E270BF28@IanPC> We too had an earthquake in the UK earlier this year - not a usual occurrence over here. See http://www.bgs.ac.uk/news/Market_Rasen_Feb_27_2008_web.pdf for details of the earthquake. It is not often that I forward appeals but this one was so heart-rending that I felt I ought to ! Ian EARTHQUAKE APPEAL An earthquake measuring 5.3 on the Richter scale hit Liverpool in the early hours of Wednesday 27 February 2008. Victims were seen wandering around aimlessly, muttering 'waa the fuuuuk laaa'. The tremor decimated the area causing approximately ?30 worth of damage. Several priceless collections of mementos from Majorca and the Costa del Sol were damaged beyond repair. Three areas of historic burnt out cars were disturbed. Many locals were woken well before their giros arrived. '96.7 City FM', the local radio station, reported that hundreds of residents were confused and bewildered and were still trying to come to terms with the fact that something interesting had happened in Liverpool. One resident - Chantelle Smith-Jones, a 15-year-old mother of 5 said, "It was such a shock, my little Chardonnay-Mercedes come running into my bedroom crying. My youngest two, Tyler-Morgan and Victoria-Storm slept through it all. I was still shaking when I was skinning up and watching Jeremy Kyle the next morning." Apparently looting, muggings and car crime were unaffected and carried on as normal. The British Red Cross has so far managed to ship 4,000 crates of Sunny Delight http://sunny-d.co.uk/home.php/ to the area to help the stricken locals. Rescue workers are still searching through the rubble and have found large quantities of personal belongings, including benefit books, jewellery from Elizabeth Duke at Argos http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Home.htm and Bone China from Poundland http://www.poundland.co.uk/pages/default.aspx. HOW CAN YOU HELP? This appeal is to raise money for food and clothing parcels for those unfortunate enough to be caught up in this disaster. Clothing is most sought after - items most needed include: Fila or Burberry baseball caps Kappa tracksuit tops (his and hers) Shell suits (female) White sport socks Rockport boots and any other items usually sold in Primark and TJ Hughes. Food parcels may be harder to come by, but are needed all the same. Required foodstuffs include: Microwave meals, Tins of baked beans, Ice cream, Cans of Colt 45 or Special Brew. 22p buys ........ a biro for filling in the Social Security Benefit claims and compensation forms. ?2 buys .......... chips, crisps and blue fizzy drinks for a family of 9. ?5.50 buys ...... A packet of Benson & Hedges and a lighter to calm the nerves of those affected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garret Scott" To: "Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? >I didn't, but my dogs sure did! > We're just outside of Knoxville, TN. > Garret > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Subject: [VoIP] Did anyone else feel the earthquake? > > > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From madmanmarkau at hotmail.com Sat Apr 19 03:43:36 2008 From: madmanmarkau at hotmail.com (Mad Mark) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:43:36 +0000 Subject: [VoIP] Telephone History, or Smoke Signals ... In-Reply-To: <48090961.10765.A650A01@localhost> References: <48090961.10765.A650A01@localhost> Message-ID: My goodness, I had a nice little giggle at these messages. Where did these anecdotes come from? I've found it so difficult to find telephone humor. > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:49:37 -0400 > From: chad at maine.edu > To: voip at ckts.info > Subject: [VoIP] Telephone History, or Smoke Signals ... > > > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > > After having dug to a depth of 10 meters last year, Scottish > scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and > came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone > network more than > 100 years ago. > > > > Not to be outdone by the Scots, in the weeks that followed, English > scientists dug to a depth of 20 meters, and shortly after, headlines in > the UK newspapers read: 'English archaeologists have found traces > of 200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors > already had an advanced high-tech communications network a > hundred years earlier than the Scots.' > > > > One week later, 'The Daily Squidjigger,' a Newfoundland > newspaper, reported the following: > > 'After digging as deep as 30 meters near Cornerbrook, Wilf > Johnson, a self taught archaeologist, reported that he found > absolutely nothing. > > > Wilf has therefore concluded that 300 years ago Newfoundland had > already gone wireless.' > > > > > Also: > An elderly lady phoned her telephone company to > report that her telephone failed to ring ... > when her friends called - and that on the few occasions > when it did ring, her pet dog always moaned right before > the phone rang. The telephone repairman proceeded to the > scene, curious to see this psychic dog or senile elderly lady. > He climbed a nearby telephone pole, hooked in his test set, > and dialed the subscriber's house. The phone didn't ring > right away, but then the dog moaned loudly and the > telephone began to ring. > Climbing down from the pole, the telephone repairman > found: > * The dog was tied to the telephone system's ground > wire via a steel chain and collar. > * The wire connection to the ground rod was loose. > * The dog was receiving 90 volts of signaling current > when the phone number was called. > * After a couple of such jolts, the dog would start > moaning and then urinate on himself and the ground. > * The wet ground would complete the circuit, thus > causing the phone to ring. > Which demonstrates that some problems CAN be fixed by > pissing and moaning. > > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ _________________________________________________________________ You dream job is up for grabs. Grab it. http://mycareer.com.au/?s_cid=596065 From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Mon Apr 21 19:10:12 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:10:12 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Successful calls to NZ Message-ID: <480D2CE4.8060809@stromberg-carlson.org> After several tires, had a nice chat with Brent at the museum in NZ The IAX2 protocol timed out several times from me calling to him, then a few minutes later all went well, though it sounded as if the equipment at his end is not 100 percent. Once it completed, we were able to talk for quite a while until another volunteer dropped a linefinder circuit! Took my ears a while to get used to the NZ English, but the old brain did adjust after a few minutes. He will be publishing a number and a schedule of when the rotary switch is on line. Many thanks to Ian as well in getting them up and running. John Novack -- Dog is my co-pilot From chad at maine.edu Tue Apr 22 21:27:09 2008 From: chad at maine.edu (Chad Perkins) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:27:09 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Telephone History, or Smoke Signals ... In-Reply-To: References: <48090961.10765.A650A01@localhost> Message-ID: <480E663D.12039.CC65D2E@localhost> I think they were floating around one of the TCI lists ... On 19 Apr 2008 at 8:43, Mad Mark wrote: > > My goodness, I had a nice little giggle at these messages. Where did > these anecdotes come from? I've found it so difficult to find > telephone humor. > > > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:49:37 -0400 > > From: chad at maine.edu > > To: voip at ckts.info > > Subject: [VoIP] Telephone History, or Smoke Signals ... > > > > From dfroula at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 14:12:10 2008 From: dfroula at sbcglobal.net (Donald Froula) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? Message-ID: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any of my schematics or by Google. Thanks, Don From hockd at dteenergy.com Wed Apr 23 14:21:55 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:21:55 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? In-Reply-To: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am pretty sure it is 135 ohms for a std U1. Please feel free to refresh my memory. Thanks, Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: voip at ckts.info From: Donald Froula Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/23/2008 03:12PM Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any of my schematics or by Google. Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From dfroula at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 14:55:32 2008 From: dfroula at sbcglobal.net (Donald Froula) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <602121.24864.qm@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks! Now that I know the capsule is a "U1" model, I Googled and found an ARRL construction article that uses the U1 in a crystal radio circuit. Quite nice, as it uses a MOSFET as a detector instead of a germanium diode! http://www.arrl.org/qst/2007/01/culter.pdf Anyway, this is from the article: "I have used an audio signal generator and RadioShack sound level meter to measure the sensitivity of telephone receiver elements such as the GTE D-51030A or Western Electric U-1 or LB-1, which can be obtained from old telephones in thrift shops for several dollars. The sensitivity is about 122 dB SPL/mW or 14 dB better than stereo headphones, although the response is limited to about 3 kHz. If we assume an earphone aperture of 1 cm?, this is an efficiency of 16% in converting electrical power to sound power. The Knowles Acoustics CM-3152 balanced-armature element should offer similar performance.7 All of these elements have an impedance of 150 ? at 1 kHz." So, you seem to have remembered correctly! Best, Don --- Dennis D Hock wrote: > I am pretty sure it is 135 ohms for a std U1. > Please feel free to refresh my memory. > > Thanks, > > Dennis Hock > > -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- > > > To: voip at ckts.info > From: Donald Froula > Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info > Date: 04/23/2008 03:12PM > Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? > > Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the > earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric > "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any > of my schematics or by Google. > > Thanks, > > Don > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > From stfkerman at jps.net Wed Apr 23 15:24:37 2008 From: stfkerman at jps.net (Steph Kerman) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:24:37 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? In-Reply-To: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480F9B05.4000509@jps.net> A standard U1 or U3 is 150 ohms. There are other U-series elements with different impedances for special applications. Steph Donald Froula wrote: > Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the > earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric > "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any > of my schematics or by Google. > > Thanks, > > Don > From stfkerman at jps.net Wed Apr 23 15:27:03 2008 From: stfkerman at jps.net (Steph Kerman) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:27:03 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? In-Reply-To: References: <961685.37118.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480F9B97.1000504@jps.net> I think an HA1 may be 135 ohms. There are also 300 and 600 ohm versions. Steph Dennis D Hock wrote: > I am pretty sure it is 135 ohms for a std U1. Please feel free to refresh my memory. > > Thanks, > > Dennis Hock > > -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- > > > To: voip at ckts.info > From: Donald Froula > Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info > Date: 04/23/2008 03:12PM > Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? > > Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the > earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric > "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any > of my schematics or by Google. > > Thanks, > > Don > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > From hockd at dteenergy.com Thu Apr 24 03:54:31 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:54:31 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? In-Reply-To: <602121.24864.qm@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <602121.24864.qm@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dion Well I was at least close. When I got home last night I looked it up and saw that it was really about 150. Well at least the brain box is still working somewhat. Take care, Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches From: Donald Froula Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/23/2008 03:55PM Subject: Re: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? Thanks! Now that I know the capsule is a "U1" model, I Googled and found an ARRL construction article that uses the U1 in a crystal radio circuit. Quite nice, as it uses a MOSFET as a detector instead of a germanium diode! http://www.arrl.org/qst/2007/01/culter.pdf Anyway, this is from the article: "I have used an audio signal generator and RadioShack sound level meter to measure the sensitivity of telephone receiver elements such as the GTE D-51030A or Western Electric U-1 or LB-1, which can be obtained from old telephones in thrift shops for several dollars. The sensitivity is about 122 dB SPL/mW or 14 dB better than stereo headphones, although the response is limited to about 3 kHz. If we assume an earphone aperture of 1 cm?, this is an efficiency of 16% in converting electrical power to sound power. The Knowles Acoustics CM-3152 balanced-armature element should offer similar performance.7 All of these elements have an impedance of 150 ? at 1 kHz." So, you seem to have remembered correctly! Best, Don --- Dennis D Hock wrote: > I am pretty sure it is 135 ohms for a std U1. > Please feel free to refresh my memory. > > Thanks, > > Dennis Hock > > -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- > > > To: voip at ckts.info > From: Donald Froula > Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info > Date: 04/23/2008 03:12PM > Subject: [VoIP] WE Earpiece impedance? > > Would anyone know the nominal impedance of the > earpiece from a handset from an old Western Electric > "500" desk set? I can't seem to find the info on any > of my schematics or by Google. > > Thanks, > > Don > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From dfroula at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 24 17:03:28 2008 From: dfroula at sbcglobal.net (Donald Froula) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [VoIP] 12F683 PIC for Tone Generation In-Reply-To: <002e01c88584$1170c6c0$0501a8c0@pentium4> Message-ID: <585930.34984.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I put a video up on YouTube demoing my 12F683 PIC-based "bluebox" tone dialer circuit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMA_2F4AaM Jerry, I thought you might get a kick out of it. Schematic and details at: http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36307 Don --- Jerry Petrizze wrote: > Yo Don: How does one access this stuff??? > I got an error message when trying. > Jerry Petrizze > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Froula" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:59 PM > Subject: [VoIP] 12F683 PIC for Tone Generation > > > > I've been fooling around with the 12F683 PIC > > microcontroller for a few months. I am using the > > PicBasic Pro compiler, which makes development > quick > > and easy, compared to assembly language. > > > > I coded up and built a blue box circuit with 12 > > non-volatile memories. It uses the PicBasic Pro > > "FREQOUT" command that can generate single or dual > > tones using Pulse Width Modulation. With proper > > filtering of the PWM, it could have all sorts of > > interesting telephony applications. > > > > Schematic, source code, and programmer hex files > are > > at the Binrev board: > > > > > http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36307 > > > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > > VoIP mailing list > > VoIP at ckts.info > > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > From spenadel at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 17:16:06 2008 From: spenadel at gmail.com (Lee Spenadel) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:16:06 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] 12F683 PIC for Tone Generation In-Reply-To: <585930.34984.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002e01c88584$1170c6c0$0501a8c0@pentium4> <585930.34984.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02e101c8a658$cb599e00$620cda00$@com> Bravo!! -----Original Message----- From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf Of Donald Froula Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:03 PM To: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches; t2600 at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VoIP] 12F683 PIC for Tone Generation I put a video up on YouTube demoing my 12F683 PIC-based "bluebox" tone dialer circuit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMA_2F4AaM Jerry, I thought you might get a kick out of it. Schematic and details at: http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36307 Don --- Jerry Petrizze wrote: > Yo Don: How does one access this stuff??? > I got an error message when trying. > Jerry Petrizze > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Froula" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:59 PM > Subject: [VoIP] 12F683 PIC for Tone Generation > > > > I've been fooling around with the 12F683 PIC > > microcontroller for a few months. I am using the > > PicBasic Pro compiler, which makes development > quick > > and easy, compared to assembly language. > > > > I coded up and built a blue box circuit with 12 > > non-volatile memories. It uses the PicBasic Pro > > "FREQOUT" command that can generate single or dual > > tones using Pulse Width Modulation. With proper > > filtering of the PWM, it could have all sorts of > > interesting telephony applications. > > > > Schematic, source code, and programmer hex files > are > > at the Binrev board: > > > > > http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36307 > > > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > > VoIP mailing list > > VoIP at ckts.info > > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From kb0tdf at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 23:20:18 2008 From: kb0tdf at yahoo.com (Greg Blakely) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:20:18 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] The Mighty Comdial Message-ID: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> Well, I'm impressed. About 12 years ago, I installed a Comdial Impact key system in my house. It was cutting edge at the time; it had caller ID, and it ran on a single pair of wires. (My old Comdial Key system used two pairs: one for voice, and one for data) This past weekend, my son came bounding up the stairs to tell me that things were flooding in the basement. After running down there, I saw that the pipe that went to the outside faucet was spraying water all over the furnace room - spraying right into my Comdial key system, as well as an Ethernet switch, and all the "valuable" stuff we had in boxes along the walls. I yanked the power cord into the electronics, hoping against hope that I'd gotten there in time to avoid permanent damage. I've replaced my share of Mitel SX20 or SX100 consoles because a careless desk clerk spilled coffee or pop into them. Opening them up, there was always a green trace of oxidized copper following along the route of the spilled liquid. And I was able to salvage darn few of them. Back to this past weekend. After four hours of a fan blowing into the KSU, I powered it up, and was dismayed to see every one of my key sets displaying the message "No Communication." I unplugged it again, and left the fan going over night. I was astonished to see that, in the morning, every phone except one was fully functional, and, by noon, there was nothing at all that wasn't functioning. So, 12 years old. Is this descendant of the Stromberg Carlson telephone a "legacy" system yet? Maybe not, but, as well as it has performed in a pinch, I have no doubt that it will one day pass whatever line exists that we use to designate a phone or phone system as a piece of history. From hockd at dteenergy.com Fri Apr 25 03:59:24 2008 From: hockd at dteenergy.com (Dennis D Hock) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:59:24 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] The Mighty Comdial In-Reply-To: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> References: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> Message-ID: Greg I have been wondering how you wee doing lately . That is a good story about your Comdial. At one time we had 55 616, 824, 1432s in service and never lost more than a handful of telephones over the 10 years theyt were in service. I liked Comdial. Did the rest of your furnace room fare as well? Sounds like that pipe just sprung a leak and that's no fun. Dennis Hock -----voip-bounces at ckts.info wrote: ----- To: "'Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches'" From: "Greg Blakely" Sent by: voip-bounces at ckts.info Date: 04/25/2008 12:20AM Subject: [VoIP] The Mighty Comdial Well, I'm impressed. About 12 years ago, I installed a Comdial Impact key system in my house. It was cutting edge at the time; it had caller ID, and it ran on a single pair of wires. (My old Comdial Key system used two pairs: one for voice, and one for data) This past weekend, my son came bounding up the stairs to tell me that things were flooding in the basement. After running down there, I saw that the pipe that went to the outside faucet was spraying water all over the furnace room - spraying right into my Comdial key system, as well as an Ethernet switch, and all the "valuable" stuff we had in boxes along the walls. I yanked the power cord into the electronics, hoping against hope that I'd gotten there in time to avoid permanent damage. I've replaced my share of Mitel SX20 or SX100 consoles because a careless desk clerk spilled coffee or pop into them. Opening them up, there was always a green trace of oxidized copper following along the route of the spilled liquid. And I was able to salvage darn few of them. Back to this past weekend. After four hours of a fan blowing into the KSU, I powered it up, and was dismayed to see every one of my key sets displaying the message "No Communication." I unplugged it again, and left the fan going over night. I was astonished to see that, in the morning, every phone except one was fully functional, and, by noon, there was nothing at all that wasn't functioning. So, 12 years old. Is this descendant of the Stromberg Carlson telephone a "legacy" system yet? Maybe not, but, as well as it has performed in a pinch, I have no doubt that it will one day pass whatever line exists that we use to designate a phone or phone system as a piece of history. _______________________________________________ VoIP mailing list VoIP at ckts.info http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ From chad at maine.edu Fri Apr 25 20:42:50 2008 From: chad at maine.edu (Chad Perkins) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:42:50 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] The Mighty Comdial In-Reply-To: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> Message-ID: <4812505A.17127.1DC0FFD@localhost> My (now) wife's first PC (An AT&T Globalyst) was in an apartment house fire; it ended up with an inch and a half of black and grey ugly, ash laden crudy water from the fire hoses floating around on the motherboard (it was on the floor)... After the fire was out she(we) had to evacuate the building immediately as it was condemned. I grabbed the computer thinking I could save the hard drive. It sat in the basement here for a year when I before I decided to cabbage the memory out of it. That's when it occurred to me: what entertainment it would be to plug it in and watch it blow up. So I got a power cord, set it in the middle of the room, checked nearest fire extinguisher and plugged it in. Beep, beep, beep! To my amazement the BIOS was complaining because I didn't provide a keyboard! On 24 Apr 2008 at 23:20, Greg Blakely wrote: > Well, I'm impressed. > > [snip]. I was astonished to see that, in the > morning, every phone except one was fully functional, and, by noon, > there was nothing at all that wasn't functioning. > > So, 12 years old. Is this descendant of the Stromberg Carlson > telephone a "legacy" system yet? Maybe not, but, as well as it has > performed in a pinch, I have no doubt that it will one day pass > whatever line exists that we use to designate a phone or phone system > as a piece of history. > From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Fri Apr 25 22:01:04 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:01:04 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] The Mighty Comdial In-Reply-To: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> References: <000501c8a68b$ad148fd0$073daf70$@com> Message-ID: <48129AF0.8010509@stromberg-carlson.org> My few and far between experiences with Comdial do not match yours. I found the earlier ones awful to program, and only ever installed 3 Comdial systems after the 1A2 days. I used the S-C then Comdial 1A2 sets with the ITT 601 version of the shoebox, and except for the power supply blowing its top on power surges and such in construction trailers, had few problems. I soon went to E-Key style systems for their ease of installations. ( 2 pair instead of 25 pair ) The Comdial systems I did install were JUNK The Executech 2000 with 67xx series phones was an embarrassment to me, and though I didn't change that one out due to my inability to eat the cost, I never installed another one. Very poor audio quality, mostly due to the 67xx series phones. AFAIK that system is still in and working though, so from a reliability standpoint it was certainly fine. The last one I did was their DX-80. THe only good thing about it was the in skin voice mail with Keyvoice DOS based software. The phones were junk made in Bangladesh? and the KSU required a modular plug for each station, 8 per card! Never again. Comdial bought Keyvoice some years ago for their Voicemail system, and almost immediately after moved to Sarasota and installed the Keyvoice CEO as their CEO. Comdial is now part of Vertical, who also bought Vodavi. My quip at that event was " now all the awful Key system manufacturers are under one name" I long ago switched to TIE/Nitsuko/NEC with stellar results. Unfortunately the later NEC in skin voice mail systems were not written by Keyvoice. Though they work well they are harder to configure and use by the customer. End of Comdial rant. John Novack Greg Blakely wrote: > Well, I'm impressed. > > > > About 12 years ago, I installed a Comdial Impact key system in my house. It > was cutting edge at the time; it had caller ID, and it ran on a single pair > of wires. (My old Comdial Key system used two pairs: one for voice, and > one for data) > > > > This past weekend, my son came bounding up the stairs to tell me that things > were flooding in the basement. After running down there, I saw that the > pipe that went to the outside faucet was spraying water all over the furnace > room - spraying right into my Comdial key system, as well as an Ethernet > switch, and all the "valuable" stuff we had in boxes along the walls. > > > > I yanked the power cord into the electronics, hoping against hope that I'd > gotten there in time to avoid permanent damage. > > > > I've replaced my share of Mitel SX20 or SX100 consoles because a careless > desk clerk spilled coffee or pop into them. Opening them up, there was > always a green trace of oxidized copper following along the route of the > spilled liquid. And I was able to salvage darn few of them. > > > > Back to this past weekend. After four hours of a fan blowing into the KSU, > I powered it up, and was dismayed to see every one of my key sets displaying > the message "No Communication." I unplugged it again, and left the fan > going over night. I was astonished to see that, in the morning, every phone > except one was fully functional, and, by noon, there was nothing at all that > wasn't functioning. > > > > So, 12 years old. Is this descendant of the Stromberg Carlson telephone a > "legacy" system yet? Maybe not, but, as well as it has performed in a > pinch, I have no doubt that it will one day pass whatever line exists that > we use to designate a phone or phone system as a piece of history. > > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot From stfkerman at jps.net Sat Apr 26 14:02:02 2008 From: stfkerman at jps.net (Steph Kerman) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:02:02 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Machine switching revisited -ITT Rotary System 7 Message-ID: <48137C2A.2020105@jps.net> Here's a cross posting from the Strowger list (and courtesy copy to the Strowger list) of an entertaining video on the ITT 7A Rotary system. The file is 13MB and plays well on my machine with the free GOM player. It has a pleasant sound track too with real switchroom noise, though perhaps not really from a System 7. Doesn't seem raucous enough for that. Thanks David! Steph -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Strowger] Re: Machine switching revisited Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:30:40 -0000 From: danny_swanmore Reply-To: Strowger at yahoogroups.com To: Strowger at yahoogroups.com There is even a short video showing the operation of the 7A1 at http://www.postamuzeum.hu/mm/2/video/telefonia.avi David From richardlane at exemail.com.au Sun Apr 27 00:46:50 2008 From: richardlane at exemail.com.au (Richard Lane) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:46:50 +1000 Subject: [VoIP] Asterisk Dialplan Question Message-ID: <4814134A.50902@exemail.com.au> Hi All, This is more of a general asterisk question but has a slight connection to my CNET implementation. Description of system. I have my CNET asterisk server which has the Digium TDM400P card installed in it with 2 modules. One module is a FXS and the other is a FXO. The FXO is connected to the PSTN network (telstra) and the FXS is connected to my telephones. I have 2 sip providers, the first being free world dial up and the other being exetel voip which is a voip provider here in Australia. I also have dial plan configurations to dial CNET. Description of Dial plan To dial out via telstra currently I dial the full national number with a leading 1 in the front. i.e. 10394354150 To dial out via exetel currently I dial the full national number with a leading 2 in the front i.e. 20394354150 To dial out via freeworlddialup currently I dial the number with a leading 393 in the front i.e. 393123456 To dial out via CNET I dial the local, national or international number i.e. 194 or 271194 or 060271194 or 00116160271194 What I would like to do. Basically I would like to set an order of preference on my trunk lines so I can just dial the required number. What this do is basically look at the trunks and use exetel as preference 1 and telstra as preference 2. Is this possible? This would eliminate the need for the leading 1 or 2. Also I would like to have a simple menu on my dial plan so that you need to a leading number to get into CNET which then give you CNET dial tone. Is this possible? This would simplify my exetel and telstra dial plans because at the moment a lot of my numbers could be either PSTN or CNET calls from the same number. I hope this makes sense. Essentially by entering a number (say 1) it would pop you into CNET dial tone mode and you dial your number from there. In the future when I have more FXS ports on my system some may or may not have access to the PSTN and or CNET. I reckon it would be possible to do this but thought I would throw this out to the masses who may or may not have already implemented such facilities. Cheers Richard From g4vft at btinternet.com Sun Apr 27 03:10:31 2008 From: g4vft at btinternet.com (Jonathan Kay) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:10:31 +0100 Subject: [VoIP] Google Map For CNET exchanges Message-ID: <481434F7.9090401@btinternet.com> I thought it would be nice to see at a glance, the location of all these CNET connected exchanges on a map. I've set up a Google map at the URL below. Feel free to stick a pin in there. If you have a Google account, just sign in and do it yourself. Or if you want me to put an entry on, drop me an email. Rather than pointing the location at your front door, point it to a nearby town or village. The idea here is to show where the Asterisk box lives, with some of it's respective codes. Not to map the original code area's. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=109959755580207059887.00044b9005e6c79c02f19 Cheers Jon K __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity * 1 New Files Visit Your Group Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Yahoo! Groups Wellness Spot A resource for living the Curves lifestyle. Yahoo! Groups Mechanic Group What to do after you pop the hood. . __,_._,___ From greg at vyger.net Sun Apr 27 09:12:05 2008 From: greg at vyger.net (Greg Blakely) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:12:05 -0500 Subject: [VoIP] Asterisk Dialplan Question Message-ID: Yes, it is possible to set precedences. It is done in the dial plan. Here is a brief US example. exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(IAX2/account at provider1/${EXTEN}) exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,n,Dial(IAX2/differentaccount at provider2/${EXTEN}) exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,n,Dial(ZAP/g1/${EXTEN}) In the example above, it will try the first route, and, failing that, try the second. If it still doesn't work, it will dial out over a standard POTS line attached to an FXO port (in group 1). > -----Original Message----- > From: voip-bounces at ckts.info [mailto:voip-bounces at ckts.info] On Behalf > Of Richard Lane > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:47 AM > To: CNET Groups (UK); CNET Groups (USA) > Subject: [VoIP] Asterisk Dialplan Question > > Hi All, > > This is more of a general asterisk question but has a slight connection > to my CNET implementation. > > Description of system. > I have my CNET asterisk server which has the Digium TDM400P card > installed in it with 2 modules. One module is a FXS and the other is a > FXO. > The FXO is connected to the PSTN network (telstra) and the FXS is > connected to my telephones. > I have 2 sip providers, the first being free world dial up and the > other > being exetel voip which is a voip provider here in Australia. > I also have dial plan configurations to dial CNET. > > Description of Dial plan > To dial out via telstra currently I dial the full national number with > a > leading 1 in the front. i.e. 10394354150 > To dial out via exetel currently I dial the full national number with a > leading 2 in the front i.e. 20394354150 > To dial out via freeworlddialup currently I dial the number with a > leading 393 in the front i.e. 393123456 > To dial out via CNET I dial the local, national or international number > i.e. 194 or 271194 or 060271194 or 00116160271194 > > What I would like to do. > Basically I would like to set an order of preference on my trunk lines > so I can just dial the required number. What this do is basically look > at the trunks and use exetel as preference 1 and telstra as preference > 2. Is this possible? This would eliminate the need for the leading 1 or > 2. > > Also I would like to have a simple menu on my dial plan so that you > need > to a leading number to get into CNET which then give you CNET dial > tone. > Is this possible? This would simplify my exetel and telstra dial plans > because at the moment a lot of my numbers could be either PSTN or CNET > calls from the same number. I hope this makes sense. Essentially by > entering a number (say 1) it would pop you into CNET dial tone mode and > you dial your number from there. In the future when I have more FXS > ports on my system some may or may not have access to the PSTN and or > CNET. > > I reckon it would be possible to do this but thought I would throw this > out to the masses who may or may not have already implemented such > facilities. > > Cheers > > Richard > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Sun Apr 27 11:12:44 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:12:44 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Google Map For CNET exchanges In-Reply-To: <481434F7.9090401@btinternet.com> References: <481434F7.9090401@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4814A5FC.6010901@stromberg-carlson.org> I guess I am thick, but I don't see how I can add my location I see Paul figured it out, but he is younger and smarter than I! Any clues how to add Falling Waters WV and office code 666? TIA John Novack Jonathan Kay wrote: > > I thought it would be nice to see at a glance, the location of all these > CNET connected exchanges on a map. > I've set up a Google map at the URL below. > Feel free to stick a pin in there. If you have a Google account, just > sign in and do it yourself. Or if you want me to put an entry on, drop > me an email. > > Rather than pointing the location at your front door, point it to a > nearby town or village. > > The idea here is to show where the Asterisk box lives, with some of it's > respective codes. Not to map the original code area's. > > > http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=109959755580207059887.00044b9005e6c79c02f19 > > > Cheers > > Jon K > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic > > (1) Reply (via web post) > > | Start a new topic > > > Messages > > | Files > > | Photos > > | Links > > | Database > > | Members > > | Calendar > > > Yahoo! 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Groups > > Mechanic Group > > > What to do after > > you pop the hood. > > . > > __,_._,___ > _______________________________________________ > VoIP mailing list > VoIP at ckts.info > http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip > Project Web Page: http://www.ckts.info/ > > -- Dog is my co-pilot From madmanmarkau at hotmail.com Sun Apr 27 11:19:40 2008 From: madmanmarkau at hotmail.com (Mad Mark) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:19:40 +0000 Subject: [VoIP] Google Map For CNET exchanges In-Reply-To: <4814A5FC.6010901@stromberg-carlson.org> References: <481434F7.9090401@btinternet.com> <4814A5FC.6010901@stromberg-carlson.org> Message-ID: I believe you need a Google account, freely creatable. Then you will have an "Edit" button near the text "CNET Exchange Map." Click edit and you can add/remove/modify placemarks. Click "Done" when finished. > From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org > > I guess I am thick, but I don't see how I can add my location > I see Paul figured it out, but he is younger and smarter than I! > > Any clues how to add Falling Waters WV and office code 666? > > TIA > > John Novack _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT From jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org Sun Apr 27 11:55:07 2008 From: jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org (John Novack) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:55:07 -0400 Subject: [VoIP] Google Map For CNET exchanges In-Reply-To: <4814A5FC.6010901@stromberg-carlson.org> References: <481434F7.9090401@btinternet.com> <4814A5FC.6010901@stromberg-carlson.org> Message-ID: <4814AFEB.20300@stromberg-carlson.org> Well, I finally figured it out. Don't ask me how - I bumbled through it Typical Google ( other than their search ) Worth what we pay for it ( maybe ) Their "documents " spreadsheet is another Google Item I hate. Makes Excel look wonderful! John Novack John Novack wrote: > I guess I am thick, but I don't see how I can add my location > I see Paul figured it out, but he is younger and smarter than I! > > Any clues how to add Falling Waters WV and office code 666? > > TIA > > John Novack > > > Jonathan Kay wrote: > >> I thought it would be nice to see at a glance, the location of all these >> CNET connected exchanges on a map. >> I've set up a G