[VoIP] Recordings / My Asterisk & Router

john jones jjones3601 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 2 11:18:48 CST 2008


I have unplugged the fans from many  (non-commercial) routers and never had one blow up fro overheating.  IMO, if it is comfortable enough for people, the fan is probably optional.

John

----- Original Message ----
From: John Novack <jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org>
To: Ian Jolly <ian at uax.org.uk>
Cc: Voice Over IP Tandem for Analog Switches <voip at ckts.info>
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 10:29:19 AM
Subject: Re: [VoIP] Recordings / My Asterisk & Router


I 
have 
a 
6 
port 
Cisco 
3810 
with 
a 
small 
fan 
in 
it, 
but 
it 
is 
rack 
mounted 
away 
from 
my 
office.
Plus 
it 
is 
hard 
to 
hear 
over 
the 
"Hummer" 
My 
battery 
charger 
that 
I 
had 
to 
press 
into 
service 
after 
my 
switcher 
failed.
Funny 
how 
poorly 
the 
channel 
banks 
and 
SXS 
system 
worked 
when 
the 
power 
plant 
dropped 
to 
39 
volts!
Really 
need 
to 
hook 
up 
a 
low 
battery 
alarm!

John 
Novack

Ian 
Jolly 
wrote:
> 
I 
also 
have 
a 
Linksys 
8 
FXS 
ATA 
and 
have 
about 
half 
the 
ports 
> 
populated 
with 
no 
problems 
so 
far 
in 
four 
weeks.
>
> 
The 
only 
problem 
I 
find 
is 
the 
noise 
level 
from 
the 
fan!  
You 
can 
hear 
> 
it 
20 
yards 
away!  
 
Does 
anyone-else 
have 
this 
problem 
with 
the 
fan?
>
> 
Ian 
J
>
> 
----- 
Original 
Message 
----- 
From: 
"John 
Novack" 
> 
<jnovack at stromberg-carlson.org>
> 
To: 
"Voice 
Over 
IP 
Tandem 
for 
Analog 
Switches" 
<voip at ckts.info>
> 
Sent: 
Saturday, 
February 
02, 
2008 
2:21 
PM
> 
Subject: 
Re: 
[VoIP] 
Recordings 
/ 
My 
Asterisk 
& 
Router
>
>
>> 
As 
many 
of 
us 
know, 
SIP 
can 
be 
a 
problem, 
especially 
with 
NAT.
>> 
I 
have 
both 
Stanaphone 
and 
Gizmo 
as 
SIP 
providers, 
one 
is 
my 
portal 
for
>> 
users 
to 
access 
CNET, 
and 
although 
I 
don't 
often 
rely 
on 
it 
for 
my 
ONLY
>> 
connection 
to 
the 
PSTN, 
it 
mostly 
works.
>> 
I 
also 
have 
Vonage 
with 
their 
locked 
ATA 
on 
the 
LAN 
side 
of 
my 
router.
>> 
I 
use 
an 
8 
port 
Linksys 
consumer 
grade 
router 
with 
no 
related 
problems.
>> 
When 
I 
used 
their 
4 
port 
version, 
with 
different 
firmware, 
SIP 
would 
die
>> 
after 
about 
18 
minutes, 
sometimes 
killing 
all 
Internet 
access, 
sometimes
>> 
coming 
back. 
This 
was 
with 
Vonage, 
Stanaphone 
and 
Gizmo.
>> 
Once 
I 
changed 
the 
router 
to 
the 
8 
port 
version, 
I 
had 
no 
more 
problems.
>> 
It 
has 
a 
completely 
different 
problem. 
My 
ISP 
is 
Comcast, 
and 
every 
so
>> 
often 
they 
go 
on 
a 
tear 
of 
changing 
IP 
addresses, 
it 
seems 
not 
simply
>> 
for 
me 
to 
annoy 
me, 
but 
they 
are 
doing 
some 
sort 
of 
network
>> 
re-configuration 
or 
a 
fall 
back 
network 
or 
??? 
No 
sense 
in 
calling
>> 
customer 
service. 
I 
get 
better 
answers 
from 
my 
dogs!
>> 
So 
when 
they 
are 
in 
this 
mode, 
I 
either 
have 
to 
tell 
the 
WAN 
DHCP 
to
>> 
release 
and 
renew, 
or 
at 
times 
power 
cycle 
the 
router.
>> 
I 
have 
no 
high 
energy 
RF 
to 
upset 
my 
router, 
as 
Jeff 
does.
>> 
I 
have 
often 
though 
of 
going 
up 
a 
level 
or 
two 
with 
routers, 
but 
just 
as
>> 
I 
explore 
the 
current 
field, 
things 
settle 
down 
for 
many 
weeks/months 
so
>> 
the 
issue 
moves 
to 
the 
back 
of 
the 
line.
>> 
I 
currently 
have 
built 
a 
small 
MonoWall 
configuration. 
I 
may 
go 
that
>> 
route. 
The 
last 
time 
I 
tried, 
I 
had 
difficulty 
getting 
CNET 
to 
work,
>> 
though 
everything 
else 
seemed 
just 
fine.
>>
>> 
Anyone 
have 
experience 
with 
other 
routers 
they 
would 
care 
to 
share?
>>
>> 
John 
Novack
>>
>> 
Spock71 
wrote:
>>> 
Everytime 
I 
see 
no 
messages 
for 
a 
day 
or 
so, 
I 
think 
something's 
>>> 
wrong 
with 
my 
e-mail 
client, 
listserve 
subscription, 
or 
the 
mail 
>>> 
daemon 
at 
CNET; 
but 
I 
think 
it's 
actually 
the 
fact 
that 
nobody 
has 
>>> 
anything 
to 
say 
at 
the 
time.  
So, 
that 
being 
the 
case, 
I'll 
add 
>>> 
something.
>>>
>>> 
I 
had 
planned 
previously 
to 
purchase 
an 
Intertex 
router 
to 
solve 
my 
>>> 
SIP 
problems 
that 
I've 
been 
having 
with 
no-audio 
calls 
going 
out 
>>> 
from 
my 
box 
completing 
over 
that 
protocol.  
I 
decided 
to 
hold 
off 
>>> 
thinking 
the 
problems 
would 
somehow 
be 
worked-around, 
and 
that, 
>>> 
according 
to 
John 
I 
didn't 
need 
a 
costly 
router 
to 
get 
everything 
I 
>>> 
want 
to 
work 
on 
my 
* 
box, 
as 
IAX 
calls 
are 
great 
with 
very 
few 
or 
no 
>>> 
difficulties.
>>>  
 
Now 
this 
evening, 
2 
of 
my 
PSTN 
calls 
(via 
VoicePulse) 
over 
my 
ITSP 
>>> 
were 
prematurely 
cut 
off 
after 
less 
than 
30 
seconds.  
Now 
I 
don't 
>>> 
know 
if 
that 
occured 
as 
a 
result 
of 
my 
opening 
up 
additional 
ranges 
>>> 
of 
ports 
in 
my 
Linksys 
300N 
router, 
or 
if 
there 
was 
actually 
a 
>>> 
VoicePulse 
issue.  
Since 
I've 
very 
rarely 
had 
difficulty 
with 
>>> 
VoicePulse 
actually 
failing 
during 
a 
SIP 
call, 
I 
prefer 
to 
think 
it 
>>> 
is 
the 
'former', 
or 
something 
related 
to 
my 
Linksys 
300N.
>>> 
While 
not 
very 
likely 
due 
to 
routers 
from 
Linksys 
I've 
used 
before 
>>> 
(and 
placing 
them 
in 
front 
of 
my 
3-set 
windows 
looking 
S.E.), 
it 
is 
>>> 
certainly 
possible 
that 
I 
may 
have 
affected 
the 
poor 
lil 
>>> 
plastic-enclosed 
300N 
when 
I 
transmitted 
on 
H.F. 
frequencies 
for 
the 
>>> 
first 
time 
last 
night 
on 
SSB 
on 
3 
bands 
(160, 
80 
and 
40 
meters) 
with 
>>> 
between 
40 
and 
100 
Watts 
RF. 
Previously, 
I'd 
used 
only 
the 
VHF/UHF 
>>> 
bands 
of 
2-meters 
and 
above, 
which 
is 
144 
MHz. 
and 
up, 
with 
no 
>>> 
difficulties.  
Additionally, 
I 
don't 
believe 
consumer-grade 
routers 
>>> 
are 
built 
with 
a 
high 
quality 
of 
care 
or 
components.
>>> 
Since 
the 
possibility 
of 
damage 
exists, 
and 
since 
I 
canNOT 
tolerate 
>>> 
failure 
on 
SIP 
over 
my 
ITSPs 
VoicePulse 
and 
BroadVoice, 
I 
placed 
and 
>>> 
order 
for 
an 
Intertex 
SurfinBird 
IX67 
FW 
AIR 
GW2 
router 
this 
>>> 
morning, 
which 
may 
or 
may 
not 
arrive 
tomorrow 
via 
Priority 
Overnight 
>>> 
FedEx, 
as 
I 
ordered.  
This 
router 
has 
2 
FXS 
and 
1 
FXO 
port, 
along 
>>> 
with 
a 
built-in 
SIP 
proxy 
mini-server 
and 
full 
total 
integration 
of 
>>> 
that 
proxy 
with 
the 
firewall 
and 
with 
NAT 
hardware/firmware.  
This 
>>> 
router 
ALSO 
supports 
full 
SIP 
and 
other 
media 
types 
on 
it's 
4-port 
>>> 
LAN 
despite 
other-brand 
routers' 
omitting 
that 
support 
in 
total 
>>> 
favor 
of 
built-in 
SIP 
ports 
that 
a 
few 
do 
have, 
and 
the 
rest 
who 
>>> 
don't 
have 
any 
support 
for 
SIP 
or 
IAX 
at 
"all". 
The 
cost 
was 
over 
>>> 
$300 
but 
I 
feel 
it 
is 
well 
worth 
it, 
since 
this 
router 
is 
a 
>>> 
commercial-grade 
router 
in 
addition 
to 
it's 
VoIP/SIP 
>>> 
speciality-design.  
I 
also 
plan 
to 
place 
it 
at 
least 
3 
feet 
from 
the 
>>> 
edge 
of 
the 
window 
opening(s).  
{I 
only 
wish 
it 
had 
a 
metal 
case 
>>> 
too, 
for 
a
>> 
dd
>>>  
ed 
RF 
protection 
since 
the 
case 
can 
be 
grounded}.  
This 
model 
also 
>>> 
has 
wireless 
802.11 
b/g 
support.
>>>
>>> 
After 
the 
Intertex 
is 
installed 
and 
configured, 
the 
recordings 
I 
>>> 
spoke 
of 
previously 
will 
be 
made 
available.  
Some 
will 
be 
put 
on 
the 
>>> 
* 
box, 
but 
I 
think 
alot 
will 
be 
put 
on 
this 
neat 
lil 
device 
I 
forgot 
>>> 
I 
had 
until 
tonight: 
an 
AEC 
(Automation 
Electronics 
Corp.) 
model 
712 
>>> 
"The 
Messenger" 
mini-IVR 
system.  
It 
appears 
in 
good 
shape 
still; 
it 
>>> 
has 
6 
line-ports 
(RJ-45), 
handset 
port 
(RJ-11), 
Remote 
Change 
line 
>>> 
port 
(RJ-45), 
and 
C.O./PBX 
switchable 
termination 
for 
each 
of 
the 
6 
>>> 
lines, 
and 
a 
separate 
Ext. 
MIC 
jack 
(which 
can 
be 
used 
as 
a 
>>> 
line-level 
input 
via 
an 
attenuating 
mini-phone 
jack 
patchcord).  
>>> 
With 
over 
a 
dozen 
function 
buttons, 
a 
numeric 
keypad 
and 
a 
5-digit 
>>> 
LED 
readout, 
I 
think 
it 
rises 
above 
any 
ordinary 
consumer-grade 
>>> 
voicemail 
or 
audio 
storage 
system.  
I 
wonder 
if 
any 
of 
you 
fellows 
>>> 
have 
had 
experience 
with 
this 
or 
other 
AEC-brand 
equipment.  
It 
>>> 
seems 
heavy 
and 
of 
good 
sturdy 
quality 
(with 
a 
metal 
case, 
of 
>>> 
course).  
I 
found 
this 
at 
one 
of 
the 
many 
hamfests 
(Amateur 
Rad
>> 
io
>>>  
 
flea-markets) 
that 
I've 
been 
to.
>>>
>>> 
You 
should 
know 
that 
hamfests 
can 
be 
a 
trove 
for 
telephone 
>>> 
equipments 
as 
well, 
especially 
collectors.  
I've 
seen 
manual-ring 
>>> 
phones, 
a 
couple 
fan-tail 
plunger 
lineswitches, 
500- 
and 
2500- 
type 
>>> 
phones, 
1A2 
and 
other 
partial 
and 
WHOLE 
keysystems, 
and 
1 
or 
2 
>>> 
entire 
PBXs 
at 
some 
of 
these 
hamfests, 
especially 
the 
larger 
>>> 
hamfests.  
I 
have 
yet 
to 
find 
an 
entire 
CDO 
central 
office, 
but 
I've 
>>> 
seen 
a 
few 
selectors/connectors 
since 
I've 
been 
a 
ham 
or 
20 
years, 
>>> 
as 
well 
as 
a 
crossbar 
switch 
or 
two, 
and 
some 
misc. 
telephone 
gear 
>>> 
and 
equipment 
and 
parts 
I 
wasn't 
familiar 
with.  
If 
any 
of 
you 
live 
>>> 
close 
or 
within 
decent 
traveling 
distance 
to 
Dayton, 
OH, 
you 
might 
>>> 
want 
to 
make 
the 
journey 
there 
this 
coming 
Spring, 
since 
it 
is 
THE 
>>> 
LARGEST 
hamfest 
in 
the 
world 
with 
people 
traveling 
from 
outside 
the 
>>> 
U.S. 
to 
attend 
it.  
I 
believe 
they 
still 
have 
the 
site 
>>> 
http://www.daytonhamvention.com 
as 
the 
official 
website.
>>>
>>> 
At 
any 
rate, 
I'll 
update 
on 
here 
as 
I 
get 
this 
lil 
gem 
of 
mine 
set 
>>> 
up 
for 
my 
audio 
recordings 
and 
place 
it 
online 
with 
1 
or 
2 
assigned 
>>> 
(perhaps 
more) 
numbers.
>>> 
73's,
>>> 
de  
Jeff  
 
(KA3RXE) 
Amateur 
Radio:  
A 
National 
Resource
>>> 
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