[VoIP] For those of you who have just installed Asterisk1.4.16.2
windmill
windmill at topletter.com
Sat Jan 5 03:51:20 CST 2008
Mark,
I couldn't agree more, however, I believe that my P3 *boxes are actually
cheaper to run than the XP1800 and XP3000 *boxes that failed. There is
less on the mobos which are both baby ATX and one is so quiet you have
to almost have your ear to it to hear that it is running even though I
run it without the covers on! The PSUs are definitely lower wattage and
the fans are much quieter.
Of course as a 'collector' I am loathe to scrap anything especially as
it may come in useful in the future although the likelihood is that most
of the things I have accumulated will remain packed away.
Brian
Mark Rudholm wrote:
> A multitude of lower-capacity drives aren't necessarily
> cheaper to operate than fewer (or one) large drive given
> the high cost of electricity.
>
> Here in Los Angeles, I pay about 0.28$/kWh, making
> a typical drive about 30$ per year to operate.
>
> This reminds me of the discussion I had with my employer's
> CFO a while back about the fate of a class of old systems
> we had. I pointed out that it would be cheapest to scrap
> them, as the processing they could provide was so expensive
> per unit computation that it would be cheaper to buy new
> hardware and operate that instead even given a very short
> amortization period of about six months.
>
> windmill wrote:
>
>> Ah yes Ebay! That's how I ended up with a pile of 1-2Gb IDE and SCSI
>> hard drives several years ago, spares for my Pentium 1s which I still
>> have. I admit to being an old hoarder, I still have a complete set of
>> TTL logic spares for my two TRS80 model 1s which haven't been fired up
>> in more than 20 years, for that matter nor has the B&W korean monitor
>> (Tandy's own were too expensive here at the time) or indeed my mid 1970s
>> B&W portable mains/battery TV set which I used to use as a monitor. I
>> must switch it on and test it before the end of the year when UK TV
>> switches to digital!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> John Novack wrote:
>>
>>> Not so sure that MaxBlast will work with Linux.
>>> Russ and others can comment on that.
>>> Given that the cost of big drives is SO cheap right now, and MANY of
>>> them can be jumpered for some magic number, it's hardly worth the effort.
>>> Also I have bought MANY 20 Gig drives off eBay for next to nothing.
>>> Used, of course, but landed at 11 bucks each!
>>> Even if one isn't so hot, who really cares.
>>>
>>> John Novack
>>>
>>> Steph Kerman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> My Maxtor drives of a few years ago (120GB and 200 GB) came with CDROMs
>>>> containing a program named MaxBlast. I used it on older machines and it
>>>> gave me full use of the drive. The 200GB drive had to be partitioned
>>>> into a 137GB partition and a 66 GB partition.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I used MaxBlast on a 100 GB Seagate drive. I wondered whether
>>>> it would accept the Seagate drive. It announced that it recognized it
>>>> was being installed on a non-Maxtor drive and said and asked me to
>>>> accept that Maxtor would not be responsible if it did not work properly
>>>> on this non-Maxtor drive (as though they accept responsibility if it
>>>> does not work on a Maxtor drive!!). Prior to running Maxblast, the
>>>> Windows did not show the presence of the drive at all, though the BIOS
>>>> setup screen listed it as being present.
>>>>
>>>> You can probably find a similar utility on any drive mfr's website.
>>>>
>>>> Steph
>>>>
>>>> Russ Price wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> windmill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What has become a problem is finding hard drives for *boxes built on
>>>>>> older PCs, I have some new 160Gb drives lying around but they will only
>>>>>> run as 32Gb and I hate wasting all that capacity. 60Gb seems to be the
>>>>>> maximum I can get to run in the P3s and the 80Gb drives I tried won't
>>>>>> work unless I tell the BIOS they are 60Gb or less.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> There are PCI IDE controller cards that have their own BIOS and won't
>>>>> waste space on large drives - or you could get a SATA card and use a
>>>>> SATA drive instead, as the SATA cards also have their own BIOS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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