[VoIP] Decadic Savvy ATAs
John Novack
novackster at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 15:26:22 CST 2008
john jones wrote:
> I've had very good luck buying channel banks for less than $50 bucks recently.
>
> But where have all the 3810's gone?
>
Into the hands of CNET members!!
Are you searching MC3810?
John Novack
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shane Young <voiptandem at shaneyoung.com>
> To: voip at ckts.info
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:18:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [VoIP] Decadic Savvy ATAs
>
>
> For up-to 6 ports, use a Cisco MC-3810 with 6 FXS ports.
>
> They can be had on eBay for about the price of 2 or 3 iaxy's.
>
> In theory, you could attach a channel bank (about $100 on eBay) to the
>
> T1 port and have a total of 30 ports.
>
> --Shane
>
>
> Quoting Jack Ryan <doctor.jack.ryan at gmail.com>:
>
>
>> I am sure there is nothing wrong with it at all but I would like a
>> representative part of my collection to be operating - say 5 to 10
>>
> phones.
>
>> This makes a single port ATA quite expensive but if that's all there
>>
> is I
>
>> will just have a small operating display.
>>
>> Thanks for your input Shane.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/01/2008, Shane Young <voiptandem at shaneyoung.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there something wrong with the Digium iaxy that you don't want to
>>>
> use
>
>>> it?
>>>
>>> It's an ATA that support both tone and rotary (always has, always
>>> will) and is currently in production.
>>>
>>> It's a little on the high side when you price "per-port" but that
>>> wasn't listed as an issue you had.
>>>
>>> Maybe I missed something..
>>>
>>> --Shane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Jack Ryan <doctor.jack.ryan at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input guys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From what I have found, ATAs that accept decadic dialling tend to
>>>>>
> be
>
>>> old and
>>>
>>>> hard to find but more importantly, depending on the firmware
>>>>
> loaded may
>
>>> no
>>>
>>>> longer accept decadic dialling. A lot of people seem to connect
>>>>
> their
>
>>> old
>>>
>>>> phones to an old auto exchange or PBX and connect the PBXs
>>>>
> together
>
>>> using
>>>
>>>> asterisk/VoIP. I, on the other hand, have old phones that I would
>>>>
> like
>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> connect to the CNET via ATA and asterisk only. I don't have an old
>>>>
>>> exchange
>>>
>>>> or anywhere to put one. The reason I am using ATAs rather than
>>>>
> Digium
>
>>> cards
>>>
>>>> is that the asterisk PC is in a different building from the
>>>>
> analogue
>
>>>> distribution point and a network connection already exists.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at OpenWrt not to host asterisk but so that I could
>>>> reprogramme the hardware (if possible) to accept decadic dialling.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, no problem is insurmountable. In the end if I can't do
>>>>
> what I
>
>>> want,
>>>
>>>> I will do what I can.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your comments.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Jack.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2008, John Novack <novackster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Motorola 2 port ATA supports pulse dial as well
>>>>> The Cisco 3810 also supports pulse dialing, with up to 6 ports
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenWRT is in use by a couple of North American members, possibly
>>>>>
> more.
>
>>>>> AstLinux on the HP thin client, and possibly more also works well
>>>>> I have found AstLinux easier to set up and configure, and used it
>>>>>
> for a
>
>>>>> month or more to continue my CNET connection while rebuilding my
>>>>> Asterisk box
>>>>>
>>>>> John Novack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack Ryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just joined this list so I have some catching up to do.
>>>>>>
> While
>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>> do
>>>>>
>>>>>> that, I would like to ask a question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Just to synchronise terminology, decadic dialling = pulse
>>>>>>
> dialling =
>
>>>>> rotary
>>>>>
>>>>>> dialling = loop disconnect dialling)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been looking for ATAs that accept decadic dialling and
>>>>>>
> I have
>
>>>>> come
>>>>>
>>>>>> to the conclusion that there are very few and that decadic
>>>>>>
> dialling
>
>>> is
>>>
>>>>> not
>>>>>
>>>>>> high on the average ATA designer's mind. While looking around I
>>>>>>
> have
>
>>>>>> noticed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - A particular router/VoIP gateway understood decadic
>>>>>>
> dialling
>
>>>>>> - A firmware upgrade removed this capability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This leads me to believe that at least some devices have
>>>>>>
> software
>
>>>>>> (firmware) control over decadic dialling. After hunting around
>>>>>>
> I
>
>>> found
>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> VoIP/SIP services are provided by chips such as those made by
>>>>>>
> Zarlink
>
>>>>>> Semiconductor (
>>>>>>
>>> http://www.legerity.com/products.php?cid=&sid=1&bpid=33
>>>
>>>>> ).
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem at the moment is that I don't have access to the
>>>>>>
> data
>
>>> sheets
>>>
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see if decadic dialling is supported.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an open source community that supports an embedded
>>>>>>
> Linux for
>
>>>>>> routers etc called OpenWrt. This project plus a chip that
>>>>>>
> supports
>
>>>>> decadic
>>>>>
>>>>>> dialling = heritage phones on line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does someone in the CNET community have access to this data?
>>>>>>
> Has
>
>>> someone
>>>
>>>>>> already been down this road?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack
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